Absolutist/Boggart&Patronus/HappyMarriage/Floo$/Evil/NameMagic/Martyrdom/Rats

lavaluvn lavaluvn at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 5 09:23:07 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 104389


> Katie anthyroserain wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/104168 :
> 
> 
> I think Dumbledore's Patronus is a phoenix (not an original idea). I
> think at this time his Boggart would be Harry dead, defeated by
> Voldemort. Partly because of the affection he unexpectedly came to
> feel for Harry, but mainly because Harry is his only weapon against
> Voldemort, so he can't afford to lose that weapon before victory.  
> 
> I'm confused about what his Boggart would have been back in the 
first
> Voldemort war, or before that when he defeated Grindelwald ... Not
> Voldemort, because he isn't afraid of Voldemort. Not a Dementor,
> because he isn't afraid of Dementors. Not seeing the wizarding
> government act like a bunch of idiots, because he's seen that so 
many
> times already. Seeing his good students choose evil, maybe...
> 
 
Andromeda: 
Maybe a dirty pair of socks?



> I suspect that Snape doesn't have a Patronus, due to not having any
> happy memories. (Yes, Andromeda!) 

Ah!  A kindred spirit!

 and too many other comments to comment on, until... 
> 
> Joceyn wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/104220 :
> 
> << Arthur does also serve to show a loving marriage-bond in action. 
It
> really doesn't seem as if Harry has seen many normal happy 
families -
> and while this is definitely not a perfect marriage, it is a happy 
one. >>
> Katie (?):
> Loathsome as the Dursleys are, Vernon and Petunia appear to love and
> help each other.
> 

Andromeda again:

 This appears to me to possibly be a big difference between the 
upbringings of Harry and those of Tom Riddle and Sirius Black (some 
posters have been discussing the similarities/differences).  However 
much the Dursleys detested and abused Harry, they did love each other 
and Dudley.  Tom and Sirius had no such examples, as far as we know.  
Sirius, for heaven's sake, grew up in a house where they cut off the 
servants' heads when they got too old. And put them on the wall. 
Urgh!  And people expect him to behave like a normal person???!! I 
think he did well to even try to escape the legacy and latch onto the 
Potters.  I find him far more of a tragic figure than a sinister 
one.  One who wants to do the right thing, but never seems to get it 
quite right.







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