About Dogs and
Amey Chinchorkar
sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Mon Jul 5 13:12:31 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 104406
Hi all,
>>>>>>>Favorite Lines
>>>>>>>Ariana's entries:
>>>>>>>> Mrs Weasley and George on prefects:
>>>>>>>'I don't believe it! I don't believe it! Oh, Ron, how
>>>>>>>wonderful! A prefect!
>>>>>>>That's everyone in the family!'
>>>>>>>'What are Fred and I, next-door neighbours?'
Amey here:
Hey, I just remembered some posters thinking that some of the Weasley's might not be pure blood (forgot the thread). So, is this just absent-mindedness on Molly's part due to happyness (which we know she is capable of, remember Ron and his sandwitches) or does it point to something? Just as there are two different looking sets of children there (I don't have my books here, so I don't remember if they are shown similar to one parent each), this might point to something. Just a thought.
>>>>>>>Batchevra :
>>>>>>>I had to snip some of your interesting post, I apologize, but this is where I
>>>>>>>would like to answer. Peter Pettigrew wasn't as bright as Sirius, James and
>>>>>>>Remus, but he was smart and did have some powerful abilities. Even though he
>>>>>>>needed help with becoming an Animagus, he did become one. As for him being the
>>>>>>>spy, I think we have part of the story from the picture that Moody shows Harry
>>>>>>>in OOTP. In the picture, Pettigrew is sitting in between Lily and James.
>>>>>>>Sirius is sitting next to James and Remus is sitting alone in another spot. Now the
>>>>>>>interesting part here is Pettigrew is in between Lily and James, if wizard
>>>>>>>photographs show the intent or personality of the person at the time that the
>>>>>>>picture is taken, then we have possibly an idea that Pettigrew was coming in
>>>>>>>between Lily and James. What exactly was going on, I don't know, but I speculate
>>>>>>>that Pettigrew was saying that Remus was the spy, James and Sirius believed
>>>>>>>him and Lily wasn't convinced.
Amey here:
I had never given thought to that photo much. I think we can read much in there. This might prove to be very important point.
I think I will think more on this. But PP can't say that Remus was a spy, else he would have asked to prove it somehow. And what happened which made James and Sirius believe him? In pensieve scene and everywhere else, we hear James and Sirius, Remus added as an afterthought and wormtail added if the talker is a close friend of Marauders. So was Remus as close friend of James and Sirius as we believe. (I am not talking about peter here).
>>>>>>>Jen, loyal member of the Sirius Protection League
>>>>>>>Jen: OK Kneasy, I have proof that Sirius is meant to be a good
>>>>>>>character. Sure, you've heard it before, but it's basically
>>>>>>>irrefutable fact: JKR made his animagus form a dog. It's that
>>>>>>>simple! A dog, a pack animal, an animal who believes there's no
>>>>>>>shame in establishing a pecking order and that some dogs get to be
>>>>>>>alphas and some dogs don't. He's fiercely loyal to his pack,
>>>>>>>unafraid of crossing other animals who wander into his territory,
>>>>>>>and follows instinct rather than reason. There, Sirius in a nutshell.
I agree with Jen, just one more point, according to JKR, you don't choose your animagus form, it is decided by your characteristics. So, this is one more point for Sirius supporters. *laughs and cheers*
>>>>>>Amey wrote:
>>>>>>> The gift of Firebolt is his way of showing his affection (and not
>>>>>>apology for attacking Ron as some suggested)
>>>>>>Smart, who is still defending Sirius, thinks he is most like
>>>>>>Seamus (try and dispute that one) :
>>>>>>Who says Sirius ever attacked Ron? True, he entered with force
>>>>>>(but to a painting, not that hard for Filch to 'expertly' re-finish), and
>>>>>>was standing over Ron with a knife, but did he ever hurt Ron?
>>>>>>Let me think..... uh..... Nope, never touched him, he in fact ran
>>>>>>when he was discovered. Remember, he was looking for
>>>>>>Scabbers here, and NOT Ron. Had Seamus owned Scabbers,
>>>>>>(and Sirius found out about it elsewhere) he would have been
>>>>>>standing over Seamus's bed, looking for Scabbers.
Amey again:
I was defending Sirius, because I had seen this line in some post (forgot the exact number, sorry). Even Kneasy has just responded saying that he broke Ron's leg and dragged him to Shack. So I added this point to refute this theory.
As for disputing Sirius being most like Seamus, I will write in a different mail (just for note: I think he is much similar to Harry himself).
>>>>>>July 4th Kneasy offers an indication of what would be a refutation that
>>>>>>would cause him to concede defeat and withdraw gracefully:
>>>>>>("So, if someone says something which has canon support elsewhere
>>>>>>in the books, we can believe it - probably.")
>>>>>>Still no canon response. Is everybody asleep?
Amey:
Hey, I had sent the mail, I will post the part again:
>>>>>>She is talking about Sirius, who is not at all dead, and given his (believed) history upto that point, she can't like him at all. SO whatever she says about Sirius must be right. Also Lupin confirms that... I dont remember exact words, but what he says boils down to fact that James and Sirius were very brilliant and so they could easily become animagi, and Peter needed their help. Also, to create The Map, they had to be more than above-avarage intelligence, its one cool bit of magic. >>>>>>>
But I think it got lost in the long mail (which I normally write) and nobody noticed it. One more point to support this argument, DD says that their being "animagi is a great achievement, especially hiding it from him".
Signing off, as the mail is getting longer and longer,
Amey
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