Fear and Valour (Long)

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 6 03:38:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 104509



> > Valky wrote a long theory suggesting Voldemort's power is based 
on the general fear of saying his name:
> > > using a "complex spell model" combining at least two forms of 
> > > powerful magic upon the masses to concrete his dominion of the 
> > > wizard world. 
> > > marked his servants as servants of 
> > > this spell. *first priority* maintaining to the absolute the 
> > > fear of his name. 

<pandrea100 at h...> wrote:
> > 
> > This is an interesting theory, but how would Voldemort have 
> > created this "spellform" giving him power through the fear of  
> > his name?  Presumably people came to be afraid of him because of 
> > his awful actions, how did he get power to do these before he 
> > was so widely feared?


> 
> AmanitaMuscaria :  
Voldy would have created his spellform as all tyrants create their 
own myth - slowly and with care. 
The same way he became The Dark Lord. he became the Dark Lord and 
Lord Voldemort truly once he'd gone through the 'many 
transformations'. It's a gradual process.

The only problem is, you have the outcome being as either good or 
evil must win - surely the only outcome is a balance or rebalance of 
good and evil? So in effect 'neither can win whilst the other 
survives', but that's what life is.
>
>

Valky:
For Pandrea: Amanita has answered your question in much the way I 
would have. 
Supposing of course that JKR is not about to cancel all possibility 
that a single spell with a massive result could be one that is 
carefully planned in secret and slowly piece by piece put together 
to form the greater whole over the course of many years, 

(Much like the HP series ;D)

we can assume that the reason for the air of terror created by Tom's 
deeds might have been an essential ingredient in the success of the 
spell model, rather than the air of terror being a reason unto 
itself.

As also seen in the necessity for Happy Thoughts to produce the 
Patronus and Laughter to vanquish the Boggart these spell are as 
good as useless without the added environmental elements.

So saying that the Immortal Personage spell is not going to work 
without an environment of extreme Fear or extreme Valour.

Which is how I would like to answer Amanita. 
You make an excellent point to me and a restored balance of the two 
is of course the ultimate ending. 
The way I see it the spell forms are the the same, reversed. 
So saying that Harry's Immortal Personage exists because of the 
Valour inside him, equal to the Fear that surrounds Voldemort.
Also, where Harry goes he inspires brave deeds also just as in the 
heart of Voldemort is always Fear. 

So you see they are both actually not balanced themselves. Each are 
the embodiment of the side that they are on. As I said there is only 
one actual normal life between them and it hovers in the air of the 
WW. This is why I say neither of them are actually living now, in a 
way both of them are representing a half of the life that they 
share. So as I posted in my original if one half of the life was to 
unbalance and defeat the other the suppressed half will rise again 
and they two halves will still exist with their embodiments at odds 
with each other again.

Now at this point I really must say that Harry is Harry and LV is 
LV. As Dumbledore said, they are essentially divided. They are not 
each other, they are themselves and I really dont want my theory to 
be lacking that distinction.

So having said all this I surmise that I do agree, Amanita. The 
balance must be restored. Of course if we look at it too long in 
this way there is never really any threat to Harrys life, because LV 
doesn't want balance restored he doesn't want the life. He wants to 
keep the immortality.

In this way Harry faces a future much worse than death. If he 
doesn't find a way to restore the balance and snatch away the life 
from Voldy, after which I expect he may have no choice but to 
sacrifice it, then he will be locked in an eternal battle with the 
Dark Lord which will probably destroy Wizardom and lose him 
everything that matters most to him.







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