two crazy theories: Harry will die and HBP

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 104565

Hi Hans!
Valky here. As you know I am always glad to hear from you on the 
boards because I truly enjoy your illuminating insight into the 
Alchemy connections to the series. 
Foremostly I just wanted to say this is your best post yet! 
 
Hans wrote:
 
> The reason my theories are crazy is because they contradict 
themselves or are physically impossible, and it's crazy to propound 
theories like that, isn't it?
> 
> Right at the end of my essay I state: "The emotional ego is 
situated in the inner sanctuary of heart, the temple-tomb of Venus. 
Harry will no doubt enter this room and, like CRC, he will be 
punished by becoming a gatekeeper (and yet coming home)."
> 
> Here the temple-tomb of Venus is represented in HP as the Room of 
Love in the MoM.
> 
> But in the next paragraph I write: "Harry will pass through the 
Gate of Saturn – not to die the ordinary death of us who are 
shackled to the wheel of reincarnation, but the death of total self-
sacrifice.."
>

Valky now:
Actually if you nip over to another thread, (I started, *blush*) 
message 104524 should put you on it, you'll see the canon based 
theory that I just proposed which is fundamentally this very 
statement fleshed out a little. Basically it suggests that Harry and 
Voldemort actually only have one life between them and that Harry 
must take it by restoring the natural balance to it and then make it 
his. 
I believe this kind of echoes the proposition in your essay that the 
prophecy line , neither can live while the other survives, is 
relevant to the statement about the self of matter and the self of 
spirit being unable to connect from the Alchemical wedding.
When Harry actually claims his life back from Voldemort in this way, 
I feel he will find he cannot keep it for himself. I believe that 
this is where the strong love and compassion that Harry IS and feels 
comes into play. He wont keep the life, although it is his own, 
there will be something about it that makes it simply impossible in 
Harrys selfless heart to concieve of doing. Ibelieve this is why he 
will choose the Gate of Saturn and claim the ultimate victory in his 
own symbolic death. 
  

> So what I'm saying is that Harry will die, and yet he'll become 
gate-keeper. I must admit I couldn't visualise how, in a practical 
sense, Harry could be made gate-keeper, until my wife pointed out 
Hagrid's official title, which he tells Harry when they first meet 
in PS: "Keeper of the Keys and Grounds at Hogwarts". That's it! 
Harry will become Keeper of the Keys, i.e. Gatekeeper at Hogwarts. 
He will take over Hagrid's job!
> 

Valky again:
You know, I totally love this! It is the Perfect Job for Harry he is 
such a humble and gentle person this is why he so admires his Great 
Big Friend Hagrid. I reckon Harry would adore the quiet unremarkable 
yet 'hand that rocks the cradle'-powerful existence that Hagrid 
lives. Its brilliant! and its perfect and it is an awesome reward 
for the boy who lived.
Just two things, 
1. In the Alchemical Wedding the former Gatekeeper claims to have 
specific relationship with CR, what do you make of this? Also how 
would you figure the colour Blue which is a significant colour to 
the former gatekeeper into Hagrid?
2. Again in the Alchemical Wedding the former gatekeeper hands the 
*bonds* of his position to CR, it is both an honour and a kind of 
prison, which describes Hagrids position perfectly. I just know 
Harry would take it and in the AW this position can only be taken by 
choice. I only remember that the former gatekeeper is freed when CR 
decides to take the position, is there anything more you can tell me 
about that? In other words what will happen to Hagrid?



Hans again:
> The reason I feel inspired to tell you this is because just the 
last few posts have been very interesting in their theories about 
the Gate of Saturn (the archway with the veil)! There was an 
extremely interesting post about Greek mythology, and how people 
have passed through the Gate of Saturn and come back, e.g. Orpheus, 
Hercules and others. We also had that startling fact about the 
pomegranate juice! 

Valky:
I missed the Pomegranate Juice one. :-S What i have to say about 
this is I have always believed Harry would see the other side of the 
veil, somehow. But I think it will not be in book six, what I do 
think will be in HBP I would really like to discuss but at this 
point it will take too long.

Hans Again:
> 
> Second theory: the trio is the Half Blood Prince. 
> I've already introduced this theory in my post No. 104096. I 
referred to the Prodigal Son, and to the fact that JKR always lists 
the trio in the same order. She never varies: H, R and H. And is it 
a coincidence that HRH stands for His/Her Royal Highness?
> 

Valky:
By Jove Hans! You know I am bad at arithmetic when in a year of 
looking at HRH on the boards and automatically reading it as His 
Royal Highness then "doh" slapping my forehead when I realise that 
it wasn't meant that way, and in three weeks of reading HRH and HBP 
posts I didn't put 1 and 1 together to make 2 (um 3 I mean lol)

Yes! Yes! I know you have something here! I just don't know what. 
I'll be back when I have got it.
 
 
Best to You Hans
from Valky