Some points on HBP, James and Lily

Amey Chinchorkar sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Tue Jul 6 13:26:29 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 104604

>>>>>>Kneasy
>>>>>>The money - didn't JKR say that he'd inherited it? Or has my memory
>>>>>>gone wonky again?
>>>>>>Sirius suggested (or said he did) that Peter become SK, though why 
>>>>>>James and Lily went along with it is a mystery.
>>>>>>But GH and the cloak, especially the cloak. Why give it to DD? It seems
>>>>>>to be an eminently useful piece of kit to have around if you think that
>>>>>>you're going to be attacked. Presumably it was handed over before they 
>>>>>>went into hiding - why?
>>>>>>Also in Arthurian legend, the white stag is sometimes associated 
>>>>>>with the Lady of the Lake, who gives the sword Excalibur to Arthur. 
>>>>>>So maybe the Invisibility Cloak wasn't the only thing James Potter 
>>>>>>had in his possession before dying?

Amey here:
Where did he inherit "heaps of..." money? Or did Lily inherit it? (I don't think we have been told anywhere whose money is 

that exactly). Does this point somewhere to HBP??? What are the things James might have left for Harry? 
And as for Sirius's suggestion, it was really fool-proof, except for the fact that the new SK was a spy. But apart from that 

it was a really good suggestion, something like "feint".



> > Katie:
> > (By the way, speaking of "attacking schoolmates just because they
> > exist", why on earth does James behave the way he does? He seems
> > honestly quite sadistic in the Pensieve scene to me, yet he
> > doesn't get .1% of the criticism that Sirius does.)
> > SSSusan:
> > An excellent question.  I wonder why that is??  Is it simply 
> > because we see James trying to STOP the prank?  Is it because we 
> > know he ended up with Lily, and so we assume he had a change of 
> > heart?

Amey:
Or is it because that he is dead and we (read WW) don't talk bad of dead people. Or is it because he redeemed himself so much 

working for Order that all people remember that better? I don't hear anywhere else except from Snape that Sirius was a bully, 

nobody else says that. Not even McGonall in PoA.


> > June in case of Hermione baying for Lupin/werewolf:
> > No, no, I think she just happened on hitting the right thing to do.
> > Inspiring, yes, but probably coincidental.  

Amey here: But in hindsight, that was not such a right thing to do, right? I mean, the werewolf left their past selves and 

bounded after the present selves. Dangerous.



> > Obviously the graveyard scene will be included.  The 
> > Triwizard tournament will have to be included, but I'm not sure all 
> > of the tasks will be in there--personally I'm voting for the lake 
> > task to be cut.  What else?
> > MaggieB
> > Carol:
> > MO, they MUST keep the Dark Mark, the Goblet of Fire ceremony, all
> > three tasks, the graveyard scene, and the transformation/confession of
> > Barty Jr. They SHOULD keep the introduction to the Pensieve, the
> > Unforgiveable Curses, the return of Padfoot, the madness of Mr.
> > Crouch, and Dumbledore sending Snape off on an unknown dangerous
> > mission. I *hope* they keep Fred and George growing beards after tehy
> > cross the age line, Draco the bouncing ferret, and the Yule Ball sequence.

Yes, I agree with these. But there is a news on the net, (I don't remember exactly where) that the clothes for World Cup are 

being prepared. Looks like that scene is there for sure.

> > Dumbledore is already connected to a bird:  Fawkes, a phoenix.  So, where is 
> > the lion?

Amey here:
Isn't the symbol of Gryffindor 'Lion'??? And DD is a Gryffindor himself.


> > And Harry, whose soul is connected to Voldemort's.   I suspect that if that 
> > scar isn't eradicated, Harry will die when Voldemort does, and the analogy I 
> > would make is with Siamese twins being separated.   Removing the scar 
> > might just kill Harry, but it would be his only chance....

Amey here:
But DD tells us in PS/SS in first chapter that Harry will have to live with the scar forever. (Till death? I don't like the 

sound of it, so I have it in parentheses).

> > vmonte 
> > born to those who have thrice defied him = Molly and Arthur Weasley
> > 1. Ginny escapes death
> > 2. Arthur escapes death
> > 3. What is Dumbledore's previous history with Voldemort. Did he also  
> > escape death? How did he get his London Underground scar?
> > 3. Or in book 6 and 7 - another Weasley will escape death

Amey here:
Where does Ginny comes in in the "born to" part??? If it was Molly, then it was a different story.

> > Lady McBeth
> > What do those things tell us?  Good question! Not much is the 
> > answer.  We've discussed his teaching practices to no end and his 
> > trustworthyness.  The only conclusion I've come to is that I trust 
> > Snape; not because of Dumbledore, but rather because of Hermione.  
> > She's always right

Amey :
Hermione?? Always right??? (*coughs*Lockhart*coughs*).... Though she is one of my most favourite charatcers, I won't say she 

is always right, only that she has many facts. I don't think she has anything for Snape, because in that case, she wouldn't be "covering up" for him like she did for Lupin. I think it's just the fact that he is a teacher which makes her respect her(remember her horror at attacking him in Shack, she says "we attacked a teacher"), and the fact that DD trusts him.

Amey, signing off...



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