Trelawny and Dumbledore

[Amey Chinchorkar]

No: HPFGUIDX 104641

Now that Mark Evans has been relieved from the burden of being a future candidate for HBP, I think it's going to be a close race between GG and TR. (Though I recived no comments on my theory of Slytherin being HBP).


> > I have wondered, for some time, why Fake Moody spend so much time 
> > teaching the Unforgivable Curses.  
> > I think it was simply because that's what he's good at.  As a Death 
> > Eater, he probably didn't have much need of DEFENCE against the Dark 
> > Arts spells, but he used the Unforgiveables frequently.  Whether 
> > because he wasn't so good at the other stuff, or didn't want to teach 
> > true defensive methods and thereby help the anti-DA cause, or just 
> > that he stuck to what he knew and loved, he concentrated on the 
> > spells closest to his heart.  Also, he was a bit nutty after years of 
> > Azkaban and house arrest, having brooded all that time, maybe he was 
> > just enjoying getting to use these curses again.  

Amey:
I think I have read in GoF that he was teaching with permission from Dumbledore. I wonder what he told Dumbledore for this? Because I am sure he can't do any such thing even if he is Dumbledore's friend. So Dumbledore must have some reason to think that defence against these spells will be needed. And Harry needed it in graveyard. (I wonder why I come again and again to Dumbledore time travelling? Or does he know even more than we think, which means, he will be knowing evrything. Hmm... One more point for Dumbledore as my favourite, give me some pointers in defence of Hermione)


> > As JKR says on her website:
> > "'Does Hermione love Ron or Harry?'
> > I can't believe that some of you haven't worked this one out yet,
> > but I'm not going to answer because that would spoil the
> > arguments, which I enjoy."

Whose arguments, Ron vs Hermione or H/Hr shippers vs R/Hr shippers? That's one big quetsion, right? 


> > What if Trelawny really is a fraud.  Ron seems to have more ability 
> > than she does.  His jokes often come true--and they are very 
> > specific, unlike Trelawny's ambiguous comments.  I wonder if someone 
> > could be feeding her their own agenda.  If so, for what purpose? Is 
> > it to keep the Order and the De's busy and not focused?  I really 
> > don't know.  The fact that the prophecy calls Voldemort the Dark Lord 
> > (as you both pointed out) might be a clue.  Is there a smart DE out 
> > there that is planning to bring down both the Order and the DEs? Has 
> > someone carefully written the prophecy to cater to Voldemort's 
> > megalomania, while at the same time feeding into his main insecurity: 
> > his fear of death.

Amey here:
But what about the Prophesy in PoA? Where does it fit into the *Unknown Person's* plans?


> > Amey Chinchorkar" <sherlockholme_ac at r...> wrote:[snip]
> Amey again :[snip]
> > Phil:
> > Sorry but I just boggled and I wanted a sanity check.
> > I am not aware of any possible reason from canon to doubt that the man
> > who appeared from Voldemort's wand in the graveyard scene was anyone
> > other than James Potter.
> > This would appear to be concrete proof that James Potter did indeed
> > die at Godric's Hollow, just as Voldemort confirmed.
> > Which man are you saying "was not James"?

Amey again:
Sorry again. To make it clear (I must stop writing long mails), I was talking about Godric's Hollow, not graveyard. That is final, but we don't know as yet whose voice harry hears from JKR.


> > Louis Badalament
> > Book Four centered deeper around the Triwizard Tourament 
> > than the Goblet of Fire, yet it was through that Goblet that 
> > Voldemort was able to achieve the second body he sought, and begin 
> > restoring his old power, and it was by the Goblet that Harry was 
> > able to return to Dumbledore.

Amey Here:
He got back using Triwizard Cup, not the goblet. Of course, teh story really started when his name was put into the goblet, so that point is valid.

> > Cathy:
> > I thought it interesting, also, that Trelawney has been at Hogwarts, it seems, virtually 
> > since > > she made the prediction in front of Dumbledore.  Is she there for her own protection?  
> > Dumbledore will not allow her to be removed from the school in OotP when 
Umbridge has her > > dismissed.  Although Trelawney doesn't seem to have any idea what she said 

when she makes a > > prediction, I'm sure LV could find a way to break into her mind if she was 

in his clutches > > (as > > Bertha Jorkins was).  Is that also the reason Snape has been at the 

school for 14 > > years...to protect him in some way?  I don't know.

Amey:
But Trelawny proved more powerful than he thought, she had her second true prophesy. I wonder if she produces some more surprises in next books. And how about looking for clues in skies now? Now that Firenze is here to stay, I am sure we are going to have many mystic clues about planets. (Just imagine hearing the PoA prophesy from him)


Amey, feeling sorry Firenze couldn't come earlier as that is sure going to cause some long discussions



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