Snape Question

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No: HPFGUIDX 104684

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ccahallebro" 
> 
> Remember the scene in the 3 broomsticks. Prof. McGonagall tells 
> Hagrid etc that Dumbledore 'had his spies' and that one of those 
> spies warned the Potters that they were in danger. Now, based on 
the 
> fact we know Snape informed on Voldemort for the Order, we know he 
> was aggreived about James Potter saving his life and wanted to 
acquit 
> himself of that reciprocal duty, we know Snape did some MAJOR 
service 
> to the Order - major enough to convince everyone he was on the 
> correct side - that spy was Snape. He tried to save the Potters 
from 
> Voldemort, but couldnt. 
> 
> By this stage he clearly wasnt at the heart of the Death Eaters, 
> because he didnt know that Pettigrew, not Sirius, was the leak. I 
> suspect that Snape giving that information was the point at which 
he 
> effectively broke his cover - Voldemort knows there is one he 
> has 'lost forever' of his old servants (OotP)- why put it in the 
text 
> if its not a named charachter, and the one person it applies to is 
> Snape? 
>



Alla:

Respectfully, we don't know ANY of that. We speculate about that, 
yes, but we don't know any of that. 

Snape tried to save Potters? Very possible, especially based on his 
half-crasy rant to Harry in PoA that Harry is just like his father, 
does not listen to warnings, just as arrogant, etc.,.etc. 

But, we don't know that yet.

(For the record, I believe that this is the case, but I refuse to 
acquit Snape based on circumstantial evidence . :))


Snape was a spy, sure, but in that very place of PoA, Fudge says that 
Dumbledore had many spies (sorry, don't have a book with me, 
therefore paraphrasing), so it could have been a different person.


Dumbledore believes Snape because he according to JKR told him his 
story adn Dumbledore believed it. It does not necessarily 
equal "major service for the Order". Although based on "great 
personal risk" I am inclined to believe that one too.



We also don't know that at the time Potters were killed Snape was not 
at the Heart of the Deatheaters. I really want to believe that he 
sincerely believed that Sirius was a murderer, when he was going 
crasy at PoA, but we don't know that either. Snape could have as well 
know that Pettigrew was alive and keep it to himself for whatever 
reason.


<ccahallebro at y...> wrote: 
> Snape IS a good guy. He just isn't a NICE guy.


Alla:

OK, people insist that "good" and " nice" somehow have to be the 
opposite definitions. Why? 

So, the person who treats others with kindness is a bad person? I 
believe that such person falls under the definition of "good" much 
better than Snape.


Please don't argue the Fake!Moody example. He was just pretending to 
be nice, he was not really. If we learn that Snape just pretends to 
be vicious, revengeful and cruel to his students (OK, to Harry and 
Neville), that will be a different story.