JKR requested bat shot in PS/SS film...

[Arya]

No: HPFGUIDX 104725

 "fridwulfa hagrid" <yutu75es at y...> wrote:
> 
> We know that the scene where we see Lily's being murdered, the flashback,
> contained, at first, the murder of James too. JK asked especifically that
> only Lily should be seen. That reinforced the idea that the male voice Harry
> hears when the dementors approach him "It's him, Lily, take Harry and
> run..." was not James's, that James was maybe already dead and there was a
> third person in the house. Snape and Lupin are the favourite theories.
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Here I go, debunking....counter my points if you can.  :D  Here's the thing--I don't see 
how that voice could have been Snape's or Lupin's of all the people (other than the 
most likely--that it is just simply James).  See, in the book, Hary hears 'a new voice, a 
man's'.  How could Harry not hear that voice and, if it was Lupin, not immediately 
recognize it as Lupin's when Lupin is then the very next person to talk to him?? And if 
it was Snape's, how could Harry, who's heard Snape yell more than almost anyone, 
not recignize the voice as the very distinctive voice of Snape's?  

And as for Wormtail or Sirius, if it had been either of them, I think *sometime* when 
Harry first heard either speak, he'd have had an odd thought that the voice was 
somehow familar.  

Plus, we have Voldemort, back in PS, telling Harry that 'I killed your father first and he 
put up a courageous fight'.  Yes, yes, Voldemort is hardly the voice of truth, but I 
don't see how or why Voldemort would have lied here.  

Plus, there's the echo of James in the GoF duel and Harry again hears his father speak.  
Harry never had an odd thought that his father sounding different that he had the 
night he'd died.  And Harry hears his father speak yet again--in direct comparison to 
the voices of Snape, Lupin, Wormtail, and Sirius in the OotP Penseive scene--and 
Harry again fails to have any strange recall of that voice not matching the voice he'd 
previously catalogued as his father's.  

That's three separate occassions where Harry has heard the voice of James--and, as 
he is the one who heard them, I think if Harry failed to notice a way that the voice in 
his Dementor-induced memories ill-fit the other two voice examples, then I say it 
was James.  Harry may be thick at times but I have a feeling those three lone times he 
heard his father are quite burned vividly into his memory.    I say James is James and 
James is dead.  

The reason, if it's true, that JKR didn't want James shown, could be as simple as James 
made some dying comment about something we couldn't yet know about--like the 
prophecy.   


Arya