Ringdear of the Marauders: Sirius or James? (was Kreacher the Murderer)

Brenda M. Agent_Maxine_is at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 7 17:33:09 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 104861

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "anthyroserain" 
<anthyroserain at y...> wrote:
> Me earlier:
> 
> > It struck me odd though, when I was reading all the posts re: 
> Animagi 
> > and what it means. How Stag is the alpha-male dear and Dog is a 
> > faithful, dead loyal (literally) and best-friend. But why though? 
> > What makes James more 'alpha-male' than Sirius?
> [snip]
> > So how is it that JAmes is thought to be the leader of the 
> Marauders? 
> > By default of reckless teenage Alpha-male standards, shouldn't 
> Sirius 
> > be the "Man of Men", James the "best friend of the coolest guy", 
> > Lupin the "model student" and Peter well, Wormtail?
> 
> 
> Katie:
> 
> I think that Sirius and James probably had an equal share in their 
> escapades. Why is James generally considered the leader? Because 
> Sirius WORSHIPS James. I think Sirius is extremely rebellious, but 
> would do anything James told him to (there's a line to the same 
> effect in the Pensieve scene about James, as well). And I agree 
with 
> your comments about the situation being different after James's 
> death.


Bren now:

But that is *another* point I wanted to address. What made Sirius 
WORSHIP James? Peter "hero-worshipped" James and Sirius according to 
McGonagall (or was it Madam Rosmerta...), but why Sirius? Seems like 
he had everything a typical teenage boy wanted.

> Katie wrote:
>In a previous post, Demetra said that "Sirius dismisses Peter with a 
> rather cruel comment about Wormtail wetting himself." I read that 
> comment as jealous and petty, not cruel. Please don't flame me, 
> people, but, put simply, I'd say that Sirius had a crush on James. 
> Sirius becomes "the buddy" rather than "the alpha-male" because 
he's 
> obviously devoted to James, while James is much more interested in 
> other things (i.e., Lily).
> 
> -Katie
>  trying so hard to keep this from becoming a SHIP post


Bren now:

I think some, if not many, were speculating that Sirius had a crush 
on James, shrug. He strikes me as a typical bloke, jock, a WOMANIZER 
than anything.

I'm very curious to see if JKR would explore on the issue of 
homosexuality. It will be most definitely interesting to see how she 
will tackle this *addressed to children*. I wonder JKR can fit this 
in though, with the series nearly ending (sobbing), having to tie up 
all the loose ends (which are MANY) -- and she insists the next 2 
books will be significantly shorter than OoP??? WHY, I ask, WHY!!! I 
will most gladly read 2,000 pages of Harry Potter any day!

Bren, not enjoying the idea of Sirius the "beta male", oy!





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