Defy Four Times (Re: Fear and Valour )
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 8 05:35:36 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 104984
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...>
wrote:
> Valky:
> > The way I see it the spell forms are the the same, reversed.
> > So saying that Harry's Immortal Personage exists because of the
> > Valour inside him, equal to the Fear that surrounds Voldemort.
> > Also, where Harry goes he inspires brave deeds also just as in
the heart of Voldemort is always Fear.
>
> Jen: You make excellent points Valky, in your essay.
Valky: *red as a tomato*
Thankyou very much Jen, I had really hoped it was not rambling.
>>
Jen says:
I've always felt there was more to Voldemort's 'gift for spreading
discord and enmity' but never thought through it. I always imagined
it as him putting a Confusing & Befuddlement Draught in the pumpkin
juice supply,
>
Valky: LOL ahh yes it could of course be that too!
Jen:
> Recently I've been dwelling on the graveyard scene in GOF and the
> importance of the Phoenix song. FBAWTFT mentions that the Phoenix
> song 'is reputed to increase courage of the pure of heart and
> strikes fear in the hearts of the impure'.
>
> Given your theory, this has even more symbolic value. Harry is the
> embodiment of the Phoenix song, in other words. His 'purity of
> heart' is so strong as to bring forth not only the Phoenix song,
but also the help he needs to defy Voldemort in the graveyard.
>
Valky:
Ok now the hard part.
It has taken me a couple of days to reply to your post, Jen. Because
you have made a contribution worthy of a lot of deep thought.
I so entirely agree with what you are saying it has inspired me to
post all over the place about Fawkes and Harry (see 'Think on
This...' thread and 'DD as DADA Teacher' as well, among others) but
til now I hadn't really been able to think of a way to give you a
solid reply.
Just a bit more of your post should help it make sense...
You said:
> And that leads me to wonder, Dumbledore and the Prophecy both
place such importance on how many times a person defies Voldemort.
Here's the balance issue again. If more and more people speak his
name and act in defiance of him, including his 'loyal' followers,
will it be like the dueling brother wands, as slowly, very slowly,
the fear gets pushed back onto Voldemort himself?
>
Now in reply (me):
Yes thats quite what I am saying. And Voldemort will be revealed as
a pathetic frightened wretch, but even then noone will actually be
able to defeat him because he is made indestructable by Harrys
dominion at that point.
I know Harry would be merciful to the withered wretched LV/Tom. And
when he does he will have made the wisest choice of all, because he
will be standing in exactly the same scenario as LV did at Godrics
Hollow.
It would backfire on Harry, but he wont need to know this, he'll
make the right choice anyway.
Valky
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