Evans, Dumbledore and (again)Sirius

Amey Chinchorkar sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Thu Jul 8 06:23:12 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 105018

>> Potioncat:
>> You're right.  Mark Evans has generated tons of posts, but this week 
>> JKR told us....he is not a relative of Harry's.  He's just another 
>> Evans. And he had such potential!
>> I wonder if Mark Evans will join Marcus Flint as a term used by HP 
>> fans?  We'll see posts that say something like "I think that's a 
>> Mark Evans" for something small that seems important but isn't.


Amey:
A great suggestion... (Hope this doesn't count as me too...)



>> From: Jocelyn Grunow <aandj at labyrinth.net.au>
>> Subject: Why would Lily be spared?
>> What about this quote:
>> " but your mother needn't have died... she was trying to protect you"
>> WHAT!
>> WHY would Voldie, terror of the WW, have spared Lily?  Do you think LV was
lying?  It is just such an odd thing to say.

Amey:
He was there to fulfill prophesy (at kleast that's what he thought). SO he would have let Lily live in the joy of fulfilling prophesy and being invincible. (I wonder how much the *unknown* heard)

>> Anette
>> But but but, I went quite angry with DD after reading book 5. He is very selfish
>> and thinks more of what he thinks is right to tell Harry than just tell Harry
>> what he ought to know. Ok, DD admits that he should have told Harry the truth a
>> long time ago, but Harry can't use that to anything!
>> I still have a feeling that DD hasn't told Harry everything.

Amey:
Let me count what he hasn't told:
1. Snape
2. Order
3. Protection
4. His lineage
etc etc. Anybody care to add points here.


>> Ally:
>> I agree that Snape has his own problems (I actually think they both 
>> are quite alike in terms of being arrested in their emotional 
>> development), but the fact that Snape is petty doesn't justify Sirius 
>> being so - it just makes them both wrong.  
>> I think Sirius did endanger Remus.  If he was discovered as a 
>> werewolf, he would have likely been imprisoned.  If he had killed 
>> Snape, he probably would have been executed himself
>> As for being imprisoned - well, yes, he was.  Sirius is really no 
>> different after imprionment than he was after the Prank.  So not only 
>> did he not change when he was in prison, but he apparently didn't 
>> change much before going there either, unlike James, who did mature 
>> and see the error of his ways at a young age.  Yes, he had a hard 
>> life, but just as so many people say that's no excuse for Snape not 
>> changing, how can it be an excuse for Sirius not changing?  Maybe it 
>> makes their faults understandable, but it doesn't make them 
>> acceptable.

Amey:
I was not comparing them there. As for imprisoning Remus if he was detected as werewolf, I haven't read anywhere that werewolves are imprisoned or anything. I think he thought Snape chicken enough not to risk his neck near Willow, forget about going to Shack. Also, he WAS (corry fopr caps) changed due to prison. Remember what we hear about Azkaban from Fred/George in PoA - dad went there for a vist and he came back all faint. (sorry, not exact words). Also, Hagrid is afraid to go to Azkaban (I think that's the only place he fears). So I don't buy that Azkaban can't change anybody. He was recovering from that. Can you say a person recovering from a long bout of 'flu is all weak and lazy? Same thing... He was trying to change. Do you think 2 years after a long imprisonment ( 1 year on the run, 1 year cooped up in the house he hates, not doing any active work) counts as a proper evaluation of a person's maturedness. I am not saying his faults are acceptable, but I will say it once more, his choices were made *for* him, not *by* him. And in WW, its your choices that define you. Why are we still judging him from one prank? In pensieve scene, he defended James, he didn't attack Snape on his own. And he won there, is it bad to win? 
So what I think is, judging Sirius from only one scene is not proper. There are other people (James) who were worse than him and still are thought of to be very good people. Why this injustice?


Amey, again sorry for the long mail... Hope other members of SPL help me here, so I can keep my mails short.



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