Barty Jr was never a marked DE? (was Re: Fear and Valour (Long))

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 105030

<Agent_Maxine_is at h...> wrote:

> >>> Valky wrote: So at this point I am going to take a gigantic > 
> Bart Jr was never marked!
> 

> Bren now: I agree, he was very young when he was imprisoned in 
> Azkaban, even before legal drinking age in the States! And this 
was about a year after Voldemort's downfall, so Barty Jr was atmost 
18 when he became a DE. That's like what, right after Hogwarts?!?
>
 
> Please correct me if I'm wrong (and I think I am on this one) -- 
> when a DE is casting a Dark Mark onto sky, don't they point their 
> wands in their DM scar and say the incantation? I have no canon to 
> prove this, I might be getting this mixed up with the Protean 
Charm 
> Do you guys know how DEs cast DM onto sky?
>

Valky:

I looked it up in canon. Embarrassingly, I had no real clear 
recollection of it except that I was sure we knew the incantation.
The incantation is "MORSMORDRE" which I suppose in my lay ability 
with language means something along the lines of "deathmark".
In following pages Arthur tells Harry that only Death eaters 
themselves know how to conjure it. 
All the surronuding canon points significantly at the conclusion 
that Barty Jr was indeed an official Death Eater, which deflates me 
awfully, but I didn't give up all that easily, I even went so far as 
to check the timeline to see if LV had an opportunity to teach 
crouch Jr the incantation before the QWC, which he didn't. so back 
to the drawing board with that one I suppose. Darnit!

Additionally Bren said:
> And where was Barty Jr during the 13 years of non-Voldemort 
period? So he was sent to Azkaban in age of 19, presumed dead around 
20 or 21 
<snip> 
> -- what am I missing? Does this mean that Barty Jr was being 
> imprisoned at home, hiding under Invisibility 
> Cloak, Imperio-ed, for over 10 years?!?! And all those times Barty 
> learned to fight it off, and... that's it? I ask again, WHAT AM I 
> MISSING?

Valky:
Yeah I think thats it, all of it, missing nothing, 10+ years of 
Imperio.