GH (Re: JKR requested bat shot in PS/SS film...)

[Arya]

No: HPFGUIDX 105075


"fridwulfa hagrid"wrote a while back:
We know that the scene where we see Lily's being murdered, the
flashback,contained, at first, the murder of James too. JK asked
especifically that only Lily should be seen. That reinforced the idea
that the male voice Harry hears when the dementors approach him "It's
him, Lily, take Harry and run..." was not James's, that James was
maybe already dead and there was a third person in the house. Snape
and Lupin are the favourite theories.
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Arya then replied:
That's three separate occassions where Harry has heard the voice of 
 James--and, as he is the one who heard them, I think if Harry failed
to notice  a way that the voice in his Dementor-induced memories
ill-fit the other two  voice examples, then I say it  was James. 
Harry may be thick at times but I  have a feeling those three lone
times he heard his father are quite burned  vividly into his memory. 
I say James is James and James is dead.  
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 "smartone564" now asks: 
> Alright, I find your reasoning for the last paragraph (dying words) 
> to make a great deal of sense.  But how does someone get 
> AKed and still have dying words, or was he injured, and knew it 
> was the end?  Also, I think the wording of what he said that 
> wouldn't tip off LV might be interesting, unless LV was in a mad 
> rush/ giddiness by then and wasn't too aware of his 
> surroundings (why I think he told Lily to move).
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Arya Now:  
Well, I don't think Voldemort, in this situation, is one to just go
AK'ing without both a bit of taunting and a bit of Legilimency-aided
inquisition.  

For many reasons, I cannot believe that Lily or James knew any more
than the rest of the Order, DE's and Voldemort in relation to the
prophecy.  I think they would have only known that "overheard"
portion.  Why?  I think Dumbledore would have to tell them so that
they (and the Longbottoms) would have been duly warned to go into
hiding and I think DD wold have told the Order in general because,
hey, Voldemort knew, so they might as well know, too.  However, I
think Dumbledore would still keep the Potters and Longbottoms in the
dark as to the ENTIRE (more depressing, stressing) prophecy because,
at that time, I think Dumbledore would have felt it was a great burden
to put on the parents.  Remember, none of them could have known the
Potters would be dead in merely a year and the 'mark as an equal'
(which only DD knew) done so soon.  I'm thinking that DD wanted the
families to try to raise their sons to be the best sons they could be
without the fear of having to someday send one off to kill or be
killed and with the idea that which ever son was The One, they'd not
know until they were each much older wizards.  I highly doubt anyone
expected Harry to be marked as a baby.    

Anyway......I don't think Voldemort's interest in knowing the prophecy
is really that new.  I imagine he would have liked to know as much as
possible.  He likely had asked James some leading question that would
probe his mind on this and, when Volde confirmed James knew no more
than he, he was free to kill James.  Hence my thought that there words
exchanged and they likely concerned the prophecy.  Plus, we have to
believe James said and tried a few things to warrant Voldemort
admitting that 'he fought bravely'.  He certainly didn't fall in a
heartbeat like Cedric did--James fought his death, IMO.  

~Arya