Homosexuality in HP

Brenda M. Agent_Maxine_is at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 8 22:10:19 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 105127

>>> Gina wrote:
> I do not plan on arguing this point and I think it is WAY OT 
anyway, but JKR has said that she is Christian and uses that in her 
writing. The Christian Bible does not really endose that sort of 
thing. I do not see anything homosexual about anything in these 
books just like I do not see a need for the comments that Harry was 
really doing something other than his homework under the covers. <<< 


Brenda now: [Apologizing for *slight* OT nature in advance]

I can tell you this much. I am a very devoted and spiritual 
Christian (not necessarily kosher-religious, but yes, spiritual). My 
dad studies Theology, and I have many friends who are Missionaries 
devoting their lives to God all over the world. I believed He has 
touched my life tremendously, and I love Him very much so. But am I 
kosher and 'scientific' about the Bible (say non-drinking or 
whatnot) I'm not *quite* there yet (just turned 21, give me a break! 
Lol) -- but I do limit it as much as I can. Do I believe 
homosexuality is wrong -- yes, it IS wrong in the eyes of God. But 
is it wrong for those who actually *face* this -- NO. Let me give 
you an example:

I have quite a few friends who are gay. Now some of them come from a 
very STRICT Christian & conservative family (you can smell the 
tension and problem already). They face a hell of dislike from their 
own parents and even some of friends. They never had a steady and 
regular menstrual cycle, they always 'looked' different and 'felt' 
different. I'm not an expert on this issue but I believe one of the 
most significant factors is biological in nature. Watching my 
friends in agony and frustration in attempt to stand up for their 
beliefs, I cannot blame them. I cannot pinpoint my fingers at them 
and declare 'You are evil and this is wrong because the Bible says 
so'. I personally don't understand why God has said it is wrong when 
some part of it is clearly out of any conscious control. I hope to 
understand it some day and still love my friends as who they are, 
but right now it confuses me.

I don't know how much of a strict Christian JKR is, but if she isn't 
studying Theology or planning on becoming a minister and such, I 
daresay she wouldn't really know the answer to the question above 
either. I also have no clue whether she believes in homosexuality, 
but it seems to me that JKR wouldn't intolerate minorities if one of 
central themes in HP series is 'Apprearance vs. Reality'. In a broad 
sense, 'Muggle-borns' in WW can be 'homosexuals' in RL, in terms of 
being minority and looked down upon, etc. JKR presents it in a 
manner that Slytherin-ideology is bigoted and arrogant, but what 
happens if you apply this to RL?

Am I a great supporter of gays and their marriage? Not really. But I 
choose to hold my tongue till my investigation to this matter is 
fully complete, and I will certainly *not* turn my back on my good 
friends (they got me into Potterverse!). If I really wanted them to 
be out of it then I'll pray to God, as it is the only way, but I 
will not hold them in contempt.


>>> Katie wrote in Message #105111:
> I'm thrilled with Brenda's response to this: she doesn't think (or
want!) that Sirius is gay, but she agrees that it's possible for some
to read him that way, as there's nothing in canon that clearly
indicates otherwise. If we all read the books the same way, this
board would be a dull place indeed. <<<

Bren now:

[Gone more red than after a glass of Martini! (which is more than 
enough, believe me)]

THank you Katie! I don't think I've had such a generous compliment 
in like a month! Of course I don't want him to be gay, anyone who 
has read my posts before would know just how much I FANCY SIRIUS, 
but elements are definitely there if anyone wants to read into them, 
IMO.


>>> K wrote in Message #105104:
> I don't want to see them having sex on the kitchen table (well OK 
I *do* but that would be a whole different type of book <eg>) any 
more than I would want Molly and Arthur to start going at it in 
public. I may be misinterpreting your comment but why would kids need
to be shielded from the existence of same sex couples? <<<

Bren now:

You know, you made me shriek in laughter in the middle of office. 
Fortunately I wasn't drinking anything.

But now I have the image of a black dog and a werewolf rolling on my 
kitchen table and it's not going away!!


Brenda, who must lose this image before she goes to 
her "Reproduction" lecture O_o





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