Snape's Destiny/JKR quotes

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No: HPFGUIDX 105187

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vituperative404" 
<mbenkin at a...> wrote:

Melanie:

> Well, I think the thing is that we're so ready to forgive Snape 
> being a former DE that we haven't stopped to think what being a DE 
> really means. According to Bellatrix-are-for-kids Lestrange in 
>OoP, to cast an Unforgivable Curse "you need to realy want to cause 
>pain--to enjoy it. . ." (715). And we know from GoF that "a spot of 
> Muggle-torture" was all the rage among the DE set. Add let's not 
> forget the unsettling image of the Muggle women being forced to 
>show their knickers to the general public in the beginning of GoF. 

> For Snape to really have been a DE means that we have to come to 
> grips with the fact that he probably witnessed rape, torture, and 
> murder and did nothing to stop it, at the very least. And if he 
>did participate in the festivities (and let's be honest, you 
>probably had to kill kittens and burn down orphanages to even be a 
>DE candidate), chances are that when he was casting Unforgivables 
> around, *he meant it.* 


"K":

Let me say, as far as I know, there is no proof yet that Snape 
participated or witnessed any of the above (without attempting to 
stop it). I find it hard to believe that Dumbledore would hire a man 
to teach children who did any of those atrocities. *IF* we find out 
you are right and I'm wrong, I will be the first to say I don't like 
it at all and I would be more than extremely disappointed with 
Dumbledore.  


Melanie:
 
> My guess is, one good flashback of Snape crucio-ing a Muggle 
>toddler will be enough for even the most die-hard Snape advocates 
>to start looking over the evidence for the Defense.

"K":

I consider myself a die-hard Snape fan and I would never overlook 
torture.

Melanie: 

>And while I  think Snape is endlessly entertaining and a complex 
>character if there ever was one, anybody who's done 
>torture/murder/what-have-you with a smile on 
> their lips and a song in their heart is not going on my Christmas 
> card list.


"K":

They wouldn't be on my list either. But I will at least wait until I 
know they have done those things before I remove them.  :-)

I think many people misunderstand some Snape fans. I would say that 
the great majority of us do not approve of any of the crimes you 
mentioned. 

Maybe I do see things a bit differently than others. I think we use 
the word *redemption* far too easily. I've seen it used with Tom 
Riddle, Voldemort, and Peter. As if all they have to do is save 
Harry's life and all is forgiven and their crimes are no longer 
punishable. I don't like that thinking at all and I wouldn't like it 
with Snape.

 
 
> Oh, and I'm new here, so Hello! :-)
> -Melanie

"K":

Welcome! ^-^ I've been here for years.