[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry's first Kiss (is it a smoke screen?)

[udder_pen_dragon]

No: HPFGUIDX 105224



Arya <dequardo at waisman.wisc.edu> wrote:
> *Udder Pen Dragon*
> When asked Harry described kissing Cho as 'wet' (he was both 
> serious and disappointed). I would not be inclined to even count 
> this as a first real kiss. 

> *Becki*
> Harry and Cho were under that mistletoe for a half and hour, 
> (the book states that Harry returned to the common room 30 minutes 
> later). I think that counts as a first kiss and then some. 
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> Udderpd again
> From Harry's reaction in the common room I don't think that it was 
> not "a first kiss and then some" as Becki so aptly put it. My 
> thought is that their was probably twenty five minutes of Cho crying 
> and talking about Cedric. Not really what Harry needed at that time.
>
> Becki again:
> I am sorry PenDragan but I have to respectfully disagree with you. 
> When Harry returned 30 minutes later, and went through the whole 
> interigation Hermoine asks, "...are you going to see her again?"
> Harrys thoughts are "...Of course, she would be expecting him to 
> ask her out after what had just happened..." (OoP p460, am)
> If is was just one little kiss and a whole lot of sobbing, I don't 
> think Harry would feel Cho would be expecting him to ask her out. 

*snipped shipping stuff because I say this ain't the best list for
that discussion *
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Arya now: 
I think I need to side with UdderPen here. To a 15 year old and a 1st
kiss, yes, just one kiss (and subsequent awkward petting on the back
while she sobs) is enough to make a kid think they're practially going
steady and so certainly Harry would feel she wanted him to ask her out. 

I just can't see that kiss going very far at all since I doubt Harry
was inclined to let himself enjoy it or further it--how could he when
she's likely crying harder and harder? We saw he was confused about
possibly being a bad kisser--there was no positive reinforcement for
him to believe that by continuing/furthering a kiss, she was getting
any enjoyment. It's totally a case of conflicting emotions. He's
wanted to kis her for maybe a year or more and here she is, but yet
she's also suddenly expressing a bunch of sadness and is obviously not
happy. Poor Harry, Cho was such a horrid first anything. 

I say the kiss happened, her crying got more intense and she likely
fell more against his chest while he did the pat on the back thing
while he stood, horrified/confused/still-thrilled as she sobbed about
Cedric. 



Udderpd again

Again I have re-read the whole section we have been discussingPages 403 to 408 in the UK edition.

We have quite firm evidence in the rest of the book that HP/CC is a no go, so lets look at what is happening.

Hermione is distracted and mainly concerned with her letter to Viktor when Ron says, "Are you that bad at kissing?"

Harry answers "Dunno, maybe I am."

"Of course your not," said Hermione absently, still scribbling away at her letter.

"How do you know?" said Ron very sharply.

Does this bring her to her senses because shortly after Hermione says two things both to Ron:

"Ron, you are the most insensitive wart I have ever had the misfortune to meet." then less than half a page later. "Just because you have the emotional range of a teaspoon doesn't mean we all have."

I think that here we have Hermione setting out her stall; Ron your one of my best friends but I don't fancy you; and Harry I promise I have never cried when I have dreamed of kissing you. 

I believe that Ron is worried about the trio.

Lastly, Harry still wouldn't know romance if it bit him om the nose.

TTFN   Udder PenDragon

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