Howler and Sirius(was:Sirius' sacrifice)

Amey Chinchorkar sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Fri Jul 9 09:14:09 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 105231

>> Roxanne:
>> Then I have a question.  Aunt P is sent a howler.  The voice
>> is described as "awful."  Who is it?  I don't recall
>> anyone's voice really being described, outside of
>> Dumbledore's soothing voice and LV's high pitched voice.

Amey:
We are always hearing Dumbledore's soothing voice, but I doubt anybody clould recognise his angry voice in the closed environment of the kithen (because it is a *howl*er).

<snip from OoTP>
An awful voice filled the kitchen, "echoing" (emphasis mine) in the confined space, issuing from the burning letter on the table. 
'Remember my last, Petunia.' 
</snip>

So I think it is kind of hard to say whose voice it is, and Dumbledore agrees he sent it. 
Also, this was the time when only a real threat would work, there was no time to give full explaination to harry or Petunia. All hell... ur.. Azkaban had broken loose.



>> Carol:
>> <snip>and his student would probably have had to
>> ship the rat or tarantula home via owl, hoping that the pet would>> 
>> survive the journey. </snip>

Amey:
Yes, I think it is more probable that the parcel will become a part (meal) of the owl on the way.


>> akh: 
>> Somehow, when I read Sirius' explanation, I read it that he wrote the note "from" Harry as >> well as "shipping instructions" to Harry.  In other words, Sirius sent Crookshanks with a >> >> note from "Harry," requesting a Firebolt, paid from funds in the vault of Sirius Black
>> Harry's guardian.  We don't know that the WW has attorneys and public records, but if they >> do, vboth Quality Quidditch and Gringotts could verify that information.

Amey:
I am sorry I was not clear in my earlier post. This is what I meant by internet shopping. The shop doesn't know and care who is ordering as long as they have a valid credit card, and they get the money with bank validating the transaction. They get an order from a name, send the order to a shipping address and collect money from an account, that is the end of their transaction. (I mean, even if Sirius used Harry's name, the shop assistant would have gone "wow, it's Harry Potter oredring a Firebolt", and the way things were then for Harry, this might have been an advertisement for Firebolt, maybe more than WorldCup frontrunners ordering them). 



>> "K":
>> Maybe I do see things a bit differently than others. I think we use 
>> the word *redemption* far too easily. I've seen it used with Tom 
>> Riddle, Voldemort, and Peter. As if all they have to do is save 
>> Harry's life and all is forgiven and their crimes are no longer 
>> punishable. I don't like that thinking at all and I wouldn't like it 
>> with Snape.

Amey:
I don't like Snape at all, but yes, I agree with you here. Snape is one of the very few characters in the whole story who can *redeem* themselves. Yes, he is bad, even evil sometimes, but I don't think he is *dark*. He will have to do something great to redeem himself, because I can't see him just telling Harry or even Neville he is sorry for all the bad time he gave them in class at the end. I mean, he enjoys that part. But still, I think he is a *member* of Order, not just by defeinition but by soul.


>> Jen
>> JKR said this when asked why she killed Sirius: "I'm really, really 
>> sorry. I didn't want to do it, but there was a reason. If you think 
>> you can forgive me, keep reading, you'll find out."  (World Book Day 
>> chat, March 2004). 


Amey:
How did I miss this? Anyways, I am not still subscribing to "Sirius adding his sacrifice to charm" theory, but yes, Sirius in netherworld is whole lot free than in this world to help Harry. (I think like many people, that this is where his mirror is going to be important. JKR also tells us this, right?) I mean, even if LV is back, I doubt Fudge would have agreed that Sirius is not mass-murderer. 
Anyways he is going to be replaced, so that point is void. Wonder what will happen to Umbridge after Fudge is replaced? (Oh gosh, just thought, what if she replaces Fudge... horrible thought).

Amey, who is thinking of possible replacements for Fudge... Arthur(ok)... Dumbledore(wow)... Percy(what????)....



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