Godric Gryffindor as HBP (Was: Prince of Walpurgis)

[jmay_71]

No: HPFGUIDX 105271

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:
> Pandrea wrote: <snip>
> > I don't know, maybe it is Riddle.  At present, GG seems most likely 
> > to me but I won't mind at all if it turns out I'm totally wrong. 
> 
> 
> Carol:
> One more bit of supporting evidence for Godric Gryffindor (who, like
> Tom Riddle, is first introduced in CoS) as HBP: that ruby-encrusted
> sword. Doesn't it seem like an odd weapon for a wizard to use or own,
> but perfectly appropriate for the half-blood son of a Muggle king who
> married a sorceress (witch)? Something along the lines of King
> Arthur's liason with Morgause, only a real marriage and not to his
> half-sister. This would be before the estrangement between Muggles and
> Wizards became significant (pre-witch burnings, for one thing), and
> that estrangement probably occurred later in Celtic areas like Wales
> (GG is Welsh, right?) where Druids might still have had some influence
> in GG's time, than in Saxon-dominated areas, at least in JKR's version
> of history.


I also like the idea that the HBP is Godric Gryffindor.  I do think 
that the word prince is literal and not figurative.  I had forgotten 
about the sword, which is a really interesting clue.  You also 
mention "Celtic areas" and Alfonso Cuaron, director of POA mentions 
in one interview that JKR told him Hogwarts was built on an ancient 
Celtic site, with some type of graveyard that will play a role in an 
upcoming books.  Finally, the symbol for Gryffindor House is a lion 
which has been used repeatedly through time as a royal symbol.

A few things to ponder:

Maybe Hogwarts Castle was donated by HBP to be used for the school.

Maybe ancient Gryffindor royals are buried in the graveyard mentioned 
above.

Maybe the rift between Gryffindor and Slytherin was due in part to 
Slytherin's jealousy of Gryffindor and played a role in his hatred of 
muggles and muggle born wizards.

I don't like the idea that Harry is decended from Gryffindor because 
I think that does go against JKR's message that it doesn't matter 
where you came from, its your actions that count.  BUT, she has shown 
a pattern of inheritance. Sometimes with physical traits (Harry - 
looks ,Voldemort - parseltounge), sometimes with property (The Black 
house is going to be inherited by someone, we just don't know who 
yet).  If Harry is Gryffindor's heir, maybe it will play a role in a 
way other than just fighting the old Gryffindor vs. Slytherin battle.

Well, to sum up, my guess right now is Gryffindor is the HBP.

Jen,
who is sorry if she rambled on too much.