Why do we always gang up on Sirius?
cubfanbudwoman
susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jul 9 20:09:15 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 105298
Theresa wrote:
> > But I do think he was not the innocent victim all the time and
> > can be nasty too - he wanted to feed Sirius' soul to the
> > dementors afterall.
> (snip)
> > James is as bad as Sirius in the pensieve scene and in my
> > opinion worse in some ways.
> (snip)
> > Anyway, I guess my point is...I think both James and Sirius, were
> > cocky pinheads but basically loveable loyal good-hearted
> > pinheads.
Val:
> Ok, I have to strongly support that. Why is everyone so against
> Sirius? Even after we have seen that James is the more arrogant,
> bullying, etc, one of them.
>
> Yeah, James went to save Snape but I really doubt he did it FOR
> Snape, I think he did it to save Sirius's and Remus's behinds,
> think of how much trouble they would have been in! And Remus would
> never be able to live with it, I think that was James's motivation
> rather than Snape.
> I think people aren't blaming James as much as Sirius in the
> Pensieve scene because, well, he's dead and deserves some respect.
> If I wasn't in denial, I'd say so is Sirius, doesn't he deserve
> some respect?
>
> Anyways, my point is: Sirius is not a bad person, he's not evil and
> I really wish people here would stop portaying him as a bad guy
> most of the time...
SSSusan:
I don't think "everyone" *is* against Sirius or portraying him as a
bad guy most of the time at all. I don't see why pointing out a
problem, flaw, arrogance, whatever you want to call it, with Sirius
is necessarily being "against" him or portraying him as a bad guy.
Lots of us have been arguing for quite some time that these
characters are GREY and complex. It's easy to "like" a character and
still see his failings.
I also don't see how James comes out as MORE arrogant and bullying
than Sirius. In THIS scene, perhaps. Overall? No. Whatever the
motivation for it, James stopped Snape; Sirius did not. James also
managed to do *something* to win Lily over, and from what we see in
the Penseive scene, I think he'd have had to do a nearly complete 180
in some areas to convince her he was worthy.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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