COS musings/questions

[Karen Hess]

No: HPFGUIDX 105410

leb <lbiles at f...> wrote:
>In ch 18 Dobby's Reward --
>Harry gives the diary back to Lucius. <snip>
>
>And lastly from the same chapter . . . does anyone else get a chill that 
>Harry tells Dobby "Just promise never to try and save my life again."  
>Knowing how literal house elves can be this could turn out to be Harry's 
>downfall in the end!


KB now:

Read on! Dobby *doesn't* promise. The next line is "The elf's ugly brown 
face split suddenly into a wide, toothy smile." (CoS, p. 249, Can. ed.) Then 
Harry goes on and changes the subject.


Ellen said:

Strange you should bring that last up because in the movie, not the book, 
Harry doesn't know exactly how close he was to being dead, right there.  I 
assume that everyone noticed exactly what Lucius Malfoy was starting to say 
as he raised his wand?  It's not in the book, and the word could only have 
come from JKR herself, as it doesn't come up until GoF.


KB adds:

I know this isn't the place to post comments about the movies, but I find 
that the scriptwriter and director sometimes take advantage of "canon" 
available in the subsequent books. (For example, IMO, foreshadowing a 
relationship between Ron and Hermione -- but no way am I going there!)

In the book (CoS, p. 247, Can. ed.), there is a point where "Harry 
distinctly saw [Lucius Malfoy's] right hand twitch as though he was longing 
to reach for his wand" but that is while he is talking to DD, before the 
incident with the sock. After the sock incident, he first "lunged at Harry" 
whereupon Dobby intervened, then after being thrown down the stairs, Lucius 
"got up... and pulled out his wand." (p. 248) Lucius doesn't say anything, 
though. Dobby doesn't give him the chance.


Ellen, I'm not sure if I understand the meaning of the comment "the word 
could only have come from JKR herself, as it doesn't come up until GoF." The 
book was published in 2000 and the CoS movie was released at the end of 
2002. Maybe the term came directly from JKR (did you mean in spoken 
conversation?), but I think it's more likely to have come from reading GoF.


KB - who thinks the word "ship" should properly be reserved for seagoing 
vessels and such :-)

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