Snape's Destiny/JKR quotes (or Snape-aholics and Siriophiles)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sat Jul 10 20:18:38 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 105509
>
> SSSusan:
> I'm curious how you would take DD's remark to Harry, then,
near the
> end of OoP:
> ************************************
> "Snape stopped giving me Occlumency lessons!" Harry
snarled. "He threw me out of his office!"
>
> "I am aware of it," said DD heavily. "I have already said that it
> was a mistake for me not to teach you myself...."
>
> "Snape made it worse, my scar always hurt worse after
lessons with him--... How do you know he wasn't trying to soften
me up for Voldemort...."
>
> "I trust Severus Snape," said DD simply. "But I forgot--another
old man's mistake--that some wounds run too deep for the
healing. I thought Professor Snape could overcome his feelings
about your father--I was wrong." [US, 833]
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>
> Is this speech of DD's part of the act, then? Or is there
> *something* going on w/ Snape besides a minor dislike of
Harry and an act to maintain for preventing spoiled!Harry? DD
said Snape was "too old & clever" to have allowed Sirius' "feeble
taunts" to hurt him. How can he turn around a minute later in the
conversation and say what he did about Snape's relationship
with James?
>
> So IS Snape's hatred [or whatever word is appropriate] of
James a part of Snape's treatment of Harry or not?
>
That's a typo, right? Or possibly a Freudian slip <veg> In any
case it was Sirius that Dumbledore said was too old and clever
to be hurt by Snape's feeble taunts. Which makes sense, I think.
Sirius, AFAWK, has never had any real doubts about his
courage, so why would Snape's taunts get to him? He could
have ignored them if he chose to--but he was bored and spoiling
for a fight.
On the other hand, when Snape threw Harry out of the office, he
had just been forced to actually relive his memory of how James
had treated him. And fifteen year old Snape was obviously not
too old or too clever to let James's taunting, which I wouldn't call
feeble, get to him.
I guess I'm in the middle between SSSusan and Kneasy on
this--I think that Dumbledore does see advantages for Harry in
letting Snape be his nasty self, and that he co-operates far more
closely with Snape than Harry realizes. On the other hand, I think
Snape has a genuine loathing of Harry, based on Harry's looks
and on Snape's honest belief that fruit doesn't fall far from the
tree. Dumbledore wishes this weren't so, but has no power, as
he says, to make men see the truth.
Perhaps both Snape and Dumbledore feel that since Harry is
going to benefit unfairly from the good things people like Hagrid
and Sirius remember about his parents, it's corrective that he
suffer for the bad as well. Note that Dumbledore doesn't say that
he hoped Snape would overcome the feeling that Harry was like
his father--rather he hoped it was Snape's feelings about James
that could be overcome.
Pippin
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