Boggart/ Patronus Musings - Quote Lupin

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No: HPFGUIDX 105552

> > Carol wrote:
> 
> snip.
> 
> > > As for Lupin, who of course isn't an animagus and certainly 
> wouldn't have a werewolf Patronus, I think we don't see his 
Patronus because  he can't quite cast one, DADA instructor or not. 
All we see on both his attempts is a bright light from his wand. 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I disagree. I think Lupin's Patronus is just fine. ;) I believe it 
is kept secret from us for plot reasons. Lupin's Patronus was strong 
> enough after all to scare off Dementor on the train.
>By the way, we don't see Dumbledore's patronus either, when he 
>scares  off dementos at the match.


Potioncat:
Well, I'd say we don't know whether he can cast a corporal partonus 
or not.  He does say it is difficult.  Does he say some wizards 
can't do it? But it could just as easily be a plot device.  In which 
case, I'd have to wonder what it might be that telling us would 
somehow give something away......Mark Evans prevents me from 
speculating at this time.
> 


> > Carol:
> 
> Not particularly good with potions or he wouldn't rely on Snape, 
>not as good as his friends at Transfiguration or he wouldn't have 
>to study for the O.W.L., so in his year as DADA instructor he 
>teaches about Dark creatures. (I can see why his interests might 
>lie in that direction, poor man, and I suppose the subject is more 
>appropriate for third years than defensive spells, but I'm guessing 
he taught the same thing in all his classes regardless of level.) 

Potioncat:
1. If we assume he is telling the truth that Wolfsbane is a 
difficult potion and that Snape is a powerful potion maker, then it 
does not speak poorly of Lupin that he cannot make the potion.  
(Just like my neighbor might ask me a question about a medical issue 
and I might ask him about home-repair.)  Or of course, if it is ESE!
Lupin, he is not telling the truth about his ability to make the 
potion.  BTW, I wonder who is making it for him now?

2. We've been told by McGonagall and Lupin (thank you Kneasy) that 
Black and Potter were the two brightest students of that year-
group.  So Lupin's having to study when they did not does not mean 
he is not a powerful wizard.  I would think Harry would have to 
study more than Hermione for a test, although he is more likely the 
more powerful wizard.

3. Well, I wish I knew what the DADA cirriculum ought to be.  I'd 
even be happy knowing the MoM-prefered course of study.  IIRC, 
Quirrell was teaching creatures, as was Lockhart and Lupin. When 
Snape fills in for Lupin, he appears to believe that knowing 
dark creachers is part of the course.  Of course, it may have served 
his purpose to pretend so. Crouch!Moody is the first one we see 
teaching Defensive Spells, and we've had a long thread about whether 
he really should have been teaching what he taught.

And, it appears that all the DADA teachers have taught the same 
thing to all levels.  But that may be a misunderstanding on our 
part.  Crouch!Moody says that he is teaching the 4th years what he 
should be teaching at 6th year level.  But we do not know if he is 
telling the truth.

Carol:
Despite his involvement in making the map and
> > his knowledge of the theoretical aspects of casting a Patronus, I
> > don't think Lupin is a particularly powerful wizard. Pretty good 
> with boggarts, though, and a nice guy if you ignore his many sins 
of omission--things he should have done but didn't (but I've already
> > listed them in a previous post).

Potioncat:
I didn't get that feeling at all.  Could you provide the canon that 
makes you think that?  He does well at Boggarts.  And he does well 
against at least one Dementor.  In fact, he stands up to it pretty 
well, I think.
> > 
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> 
> Alla:
> 
>snip> 
> I think he is a very good DADA instructor. Better than Snape , 
> anyways. :o)


Potioncat:
Lupin has better teaching skills.  Snape is better at protecting 
students.

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