Hermione's Reaction to... Was: Re: Harry's first Kiss (is it a smoke screen?)

[mayeaux45]

No: HPFGUIDX 105572

UdderPD wrote :
> > Let me start by saying that I am an 'obselete old dingbat' (63 
year 
> > old male).  
> > 
> > If ever a girl had said to me that I was  the most insensitive 
prat 
> > she had ever had the misfortune to meet and that I had the 
emotional 
> > range of a teaspoon, inside two minutes; I would have no 
illusions as
> > to how much she liked me. 
> 
> Del replies :
> Lol ! Then I'm afraid you might have missed an opportunity :-) You
> see, sometimes, when a girl is attracted to someone but thinks that
> person is not somehow good enough for her, she might resort to
> insulting that person in order to force him to improve, and thus
> become good enough for her.

> Mayeaux45: Well, I'd have to rule out the "Pygmalion Theory"(SC) 
all together.  Hermione is known for accepting people as they are 
(Ron and Harry included), eventhough she might have a great dislike 
for them (Draco Malfoy, Prof. Snape, etc...). I don't think she 
would go through the "trouble" of trying to get Ron to change( or 
even Harry for that matter).

 
> UdderPD wrote :
> > Ron and Hermione fight because they are almost total opposites, 
> > without Harry as the catalyst I doubt they would ever talk to 
each 
> > other socialy.
> 
> Del replies :
> So what ? Many couples are like that and still work out very well. 
My
> husband and his father are very much alike in temperament, but my
> mother-in-law and myself couldn't be more different. And still we 
are
> all happily married.
> 
Mayeaux45: It is a common saying that "opposites do attract", but 
I'm not so sure in this case.  JKR is a sneaky lady when it comes to 
what should be "obvious" to us readers.  Expect the unexpected!!  
That's going to be my philosophy when reading books 6&7!

> UdderPD wrote :
> > Can you really imagine Hermione staying home to cook for Ron 
then 
> > sitting meekly listening while he babbled on about Quidditch? I 
am 
> > digressing sorry.
> 
> Del replies :
> First, we never know how people are going to evolve. I was Hermione
> back when I was 15. Now at age 30, I'm working happily on being 
Molly.
> Second, we don't know that this is what *Ron* would like anyway. He
> admires Hermione's intelligence, that's part of his attraction to 
her.
> So I doubt he'd want her to become someone he couldn't admire that 
way
> anymore.
> Mayeaux45:  I agree with you somewhat on this one Del.  But Ron 
DOES have the emotional range of a teaspoon.  LOL!  JKR hit the nail 
on the head with that comment being made by Hermione.  But her 
overall intelligence has very little to do with Ron believing her to 
be a "insufferable know-it-all" (as was so eloquently put by Prof. 
Snape in PoA).  Ron even said in the movie version that Prof. 
Snape 'had a point' when making that comment.  Harry on the other 
hand, said NOTHING.
> UdderPD wrote :
> > Hermione said "Of course your not," ( with reference to Harry's 
> > kissing ability) without even thinking and as soon as Ron 
says  "How 
> > do you know?" very sharply. She realises what she has given away 
and 
> > tries to cover up by talking about Cho and telling Ron exactly 
where 
> > he stands. 
> 
> Del replies :
> But *what* has she given away exactly ??
> The way I read it, she's just baffled at 2 things :
> 1. that the boys should conclude so fast that Cho was crying 
because
> Harry was a bad kisser, when Cho cries all the time anyway,
> 2. that the boys could believe that anyone could be such a bad 
kisser
> that they would make their partner cry ! I mean, *I* didn't know 
about
> Cho crying all over the place, but I was completely baffled that
> *anyone* could think such an absurd thing ! My reaction was exactly
> the same as Hermione's : of course you're not a bad kisser, because
> nobody is, at least not to that extent.
> Mayeaux45: But the point I think UdderPD was trying to make was 
that Hermione didn't put ANY thought into what she said before she 
spoke up.  It was instantaneous and w/o thought.  And I have a 
question...How does Hermione know the places in the castle that Cho 
does most of her crying in?  Hermione doesn't come off as a gossip 
queen to me.  Makes me wonder...who has she been talking to? She 
goes to eat with Harry and Ron, then to the library, then to the 
common room, and then classes in between all of that.  She also 
doesn't seem like the kind of person to talk during a lesson or 
doddle in between classes as so not to be late.  Hmmm?  
 
> UdderPD wrote :
> > Harry has too much on his mind to worry about romance; within an 
hour
> > of all this he is in the Headmasters office talking about the 
snake 
> > biting Arthur W. 

> Del replies :
> Romance blossoms even in the harshest conditions : during wars, 
during
> natural catastrophes, in prison, and so on. I would never put it 
past
> anyone to fall in love, whatever their conditions.

Mayeaux45: I agree with you whole-heartedly Del.  JKR once said in 
an interview (I'm paraphrasing)...'that LOVE is the central theme in 
Harry Potter, without it it would be impossible'  JKR loves Harry so 
much.  There's a little bit of her in him...my point is that I don't 
think the books will end (either with Harry dying! or him living 
with others dying around him) without JKR allowing Harry to 
find "true love" and whatever that might be.