James the Berk?

[Amey Chinchorkar]

No: HPFGUIDX 105606

>> Del replies :
>> <snip> I wonder why he didn't use it on James in a much more 
>> quiet place and time ...?

Amey:
Quiet place and time? Could he find James alone for that? I am sure James would either be accompanied by Sirius or Remus (I don't think Peter would help much), or was with Lily. In any case it is hard to get him alone, and impossible to *get him* if he is with somebody. 


>> Del replies :
>> It's *James* that broke the rules of fair duelling : he didn't let his
>> opponent get into position before attacking *2 on 1* AND *without
>> provocation*
>> <snip>
>> Yep, after having been attack for no reason, by 2 people, who didn't
>> leave him any time to get into position. James and Sirius played dirty
>> right from the beginning, Snape followed suit.

Amey:

<OOtP>
'All right, Snivellus?' said James loudly.
Snape reacted so fast it was as though he had been expecting an attack: dropping his bag, he plunged his hand inside his robes and his wand was halfway into the air when James shouted, 'Expelliarmus!'
Snape's wand flew twelve feet into the air and fell with a little thud in the grass behind him. Sirius let out a bark of laughter.
'Impedimenta!' he said, pointing his wand at Snape, who was knocked off his feet halfway through a dive towards his own fallen wand. 
</OOtP>
1. So, there is no mention that James or Sirius had their wands out before Snape did. 
2. It was neven 1 vs 2, in normal duel (don't know about wizard duel) 1 vs 2 defination is 2 persons attacking 1 *at the same time*. And James and Sirius never attacked Snape together.
So, they didn't play dirty if we consider only rules, but yes, they attacked without reason. 

<OOtp>
'She started going out with him in seventh year,' said Lupin.
'Once James had deflated his head a bit,' said Sirius.
'And stopped hexing people just for the fun of it,' said Lupin.
'Even Snape?' said Harry.
Well,' said Lupin slowly, 'Snape was a special case. I mean, he never lost an opportunity to curse James so you couldn't really expect James to take that lying down, could you?'
</OOtP>

So James became less of an idiot, but Snape was a special case always. I doubt Draco would leave a chance of attacking Harry.

I am not defending what James did there, it's just that both were equally *idiots* (or berks if you choose :))


>> Del replies :
>> No. They were making people laugh at Snape, the person.

Amey:
Yes, it was a personal attack, not generalised.

>> HunterGreen:
>> As for teenage Snape, well, considering that he came to school with 
>> all those ideas of dark magic, who's to say he wasn't raised that 
>> way? (and yes, I know Sirius was too, but Sirius was sorted into 
>> Gryffindor, and thus had someone else to make an impression on him).
>> <snip>
>>  Dumbledore not 
>> punishing Sirius seriously enough (in Snape's opionion) after the 
>> prank incident certainly didn't help.

Amey:
The point here is that he wasn't sorted into Slytherin. (I hear people shouting here... listen to me fully people). What I mean is if he was so interested in Dark Arts, he must have Wizard background, and must have heard about the Hogwarts houses and their qualities? If he had choice (like Harry), why didn't he choose any other house? (Ravenclaw would have suited him surely) So it is as much question of choice. So he decided to go that way, and chose his friends, peers himself. That is the difference between him and Sirius (considering they have similar Dark background).

And as for punishment, I doubt anything less than Dementor's kiss would be enough in Snape's opinion.










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