Malfoy, Sirius and Ron&Harry friendship
Amey Chinchorkar
sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Sun Jul 11 09:13:08 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 105607
>> Cathy
>> I want to know why there were three broomsticks in the winged key room. Three. Seems a bit >> odd, doesn't it? As though DD KNEW HRH would be the ones to go after it. Nearly anyone >> >> else would would be trying to get the stone would be acting alone, why would they need three >> broomsticks.
Amey:
"Theyre not birds!" Harry said suddenly. "Theyre keys! Winged keys look carefully. So that must mean..." he looked around the chamber while the other two squinted up at the flock of keys. "... yeslook! Broomsticks! Weve got to catch the key to the door!" (SS/PS)
So we don't know exactly how many brromsticks are there.
>> Siriusly Snapey Susan
>> What did Mr.
> Malfoy hope to gain from passing on the Diary? If he was hoping
to bring Tom
> back so he could become LV again (and the killings) would that
make Mr. Malfoy a
> 'good' DE?
Amey:
Good "DE" as in he is good person but DE (like Snape) or he is loyal DE? Sorry, couldn't help it.
Anyways I think that is what kept him from getting too much chastised in graveyard. And also, he is the leader of the DEs in DoM, even if Bella is there. So I think he is something more than just plain DE. Might be LV's right hand. (Any connections to *Hand* in Prophesy???)
>> SSSusan:
>> Thanks for clarifying. I didn't THINK there was canon for its being
>> subjective. If it *were* subjective, then Harry's concern makes
>> sense. That is, if it's SNAPE'S subjective memory and he [Snape]
>> moves, Harry is afraid he'll have to "go with Snape." Turned out
>> that WASN'T how the Pensieve operated, and Harry was able to roam.
>> I take that as evidence for its objectivity.
Amey:
Yes, I was also thinking the same thing and came across this:
<OOtP>
Harry looked anxiously behind him again. Snape remained close by, still buried in his exam questions - but this was Snape's memory and Harry was sure that if Snape chose to wander off in a different direction once outside in the grounds, he, Harry, would not be able to follow James any further. To his intense relief, however, when James and his three friends strode off down the lawn towards the lake, Snape followed, still poring over the exam paper and apparently with no fixed idea of where he was going. By keeping a little ahead of him, Harry managed to maintain a close watch on James and the others.
</OOtP>
So, we don't have any canon either way yet.
>> "harp66" <harp66 at y...> wrote:
>> Is the relationship between Harry and Ron a good model of teenage
male friendship? <snip>
Amey:
Hi, I was that age not long before and if I remember right, the conversations we had among best friends were something like, sports, studies, books(because we were interested in reading) and teasing each other by some girl's name. I mean, girls were pretty low at that time on our meeting agenda, teasing part apart. But, that kind of conversation won't help story line anyways, so it is not there (at least that's what I think). When it helped story (like Sirius and James talking about Lily), it is there. It might come in later.
>> Lee:
>> There is a fair point I suppose about that, but I am mad at him nonetheless. He should have >> known that he had to be a bit responsible with his life as he, for Harry, was the one thing >> that made him feel like he was not alone when others went home. There was that hope that one >> day he will be cleared and there will be a stage where he can have that father person to go >> shopping with or whatever he may feel needs from adult support-wise.
Amey:
Saving Harry from danger comes into the deal also. He is harry's godfather, guardian. I don't think the way he was emotionally attached to Harry, he would have sat at 12,GP waiting patiently. It is not possible for anyone as emotional as Sirius to sit patiently (and I don't mean this as a bad thing).
Amey
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