Re PoA Question (foreshadowing books 6 & 7)

[caspenzoe]

No: HPFGUIDX 105787

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Lissa Hess <drliss at c...> wrote:
> Okay, this SEEMS like it should belong on another list, but it 
> doesn't.  Really.
> 
> Ever since I read OotP, I've wondered about the relationship 
between Sirius 
> and Lupin.  I don't normally read too much into these things, but 
I really 
> thought Sirius and Lupin read like a couple.  (Keep reading....)
> 
> I'm sure the reasons I actually think Sirius and Lupin had 
something going 
> have been gone over and over, because I know this is not an idea 
that I 
> alone am harboring, and there's definitely a nice quote there to 
foreshadow it:
> 
> Professor Lupin: Sirius, be quiet...
> Sirius Black: Go bite yourself, Remus!
> Professor Snape: Listen to you two, quarrelling like an old 
married couple.
> 
> Why do I think it's important?
> 
> On the one hand, it almost seems like JKR may be tossing out 
little clues 
> to amuse the slashers out there.  She may never mention yea or 
nea, because 
> it may not affect the plot.  On the other hand... [Snip!]
[Unsnip!]  Anyway, I think Sirius is going to be the key.  I don't 
think that 
> Harry has comprehended how deep Lupin's grief over Sirius really 
runs, and 
> if he were to find out that Lupin had a romantic relationship with 
Sirius, 
> I think that he'd be incredibly deeply hurt.  Not only with 
possibly being 
> squicked, but that neither of them ever considered him important 
enough to 
> tell this to.
> 
> It's possible, and I wouldn't really put it past her.  I also 
wouldn't 
> think anything of the line in the movie (beyond a serious giggle), 
but 
> since JKR has pointed out there are a few things that might 
foreshadow 
> Books 6 and 7, I raise my eyebrows at that one.
> 
> I know it's certainly as unlikely as it is likely, but that was 
the first 
> thing my mind jumped to when she mentioned unintentional 
foreshawowing.
> 
> Lissa

Interesting theories! The thing I found most bizarrely non-textual 
in the POA movie was the huge proliferation of menhirs (the oblong 
stones standing/balanced straight up - I think that's the term) in 
Harry's woods-walk sceen with Lupin. The bridge was also a rather 
romantic back-drop for a male to male scene as well, discussion of 
Lilly notwithstanding (- and is a romantic back drop really 
appropriate to that context Harry's mother either?) 

Perhaps, however Cuaron is not really being so non-textual after-
all, given the "old married couple" reference you provide. I'd  
assumed JKR's focus on Harry's various father figures beginning 
(esp.) in book three had to do with lending some verisimilitude to 
her portrayal of male adolescent angst, as well as furthering her 
identity theme. I think some amount of homoeroticism is inherent in 
that process, but maybe she really is going somewhat further with it?

Adding to it the overall theme of "normality" as an anti-value lends 
a really interesting perspective. Thanks.

Casey