How did Sirius lure Severus into the Willow? (was: James the Berk?)

[melclaros]

No: HPFGUIDX 105834

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Brenda M." 
<Agent_Maxine_is at h...> wrote:
him, in the best of DD's style.
>> 
> I can think of a situation where DD had to put some sense to Snape 
in > that DD had a power to reveal something of Snape that he didn't 
want > anyone else to know.
<snip>
 Maybe some 
> HPFG members are right in that Snape is in fact Vampire!Snape -- 
and > DD knows it, and strikes a deal with Snape  If I am to kick 
Remus out of 
> school then I must do the same to you."



Mel
This doesn't even bear discussing. 
For fear of starting THAT discussion again, Vampires DON'T AGE. 
Snape was 16 at the time. Unless we're to believe he's still 
flitting around in a 16 year old (or younger) body, this theory 
don't wash.
And don't anyone even start with the fractions.


Brenda:
>If I am to kick Remus out of 
> school then I must do the same to you."

Mel
Snape seems to have very little argument with Lupin. In fact Lupin 
would have suffered as much as Snape had the event not been stopped. 
While there is certainly 'no love lost' between the two, Snape's 
argument is with Sirius and James. It's Sirius he really wants 
revenge upon.


Brenda
> Or Snape could have been another orphan staying at Hogwarts 
> throughout the summer (like Tom Riddle) and DD was about to take 
this 
> away from him if Snape didn't listen to him.


Mel
Right. Dumbledore casting orphans into the snow. Don't see this one 
either. And again, as Kneasy pointed out, just think of the uproar 
once booted out suffering homeless orphan-done-wrong's story hit the 
Sunday Prophet's colour supplement.


Brenda
> when he is mad... I'm sure SNape got a blast of it himself...
> 
> I have always regarded Dumbledore as kind of "divine character" in 
> Potterverse. A mortal character (with the human mischievious 
trait) 
> who resembles God. He is, after all, (appears to be) omniscient 
and 
> omnipotent, loving/caring/forgiving, eccentric, but expresses his 
> wrath of madness towards those who have been given enough chances.


Mel
Well many people feel the same way you do, I don't but that's 
neither here nor there. The point is, I don't think Snape much cares 
whether DD 'resembles God' or not.
I hold to my idea that Snape is in this for his own reasons and 
where he is and what he's doing is the means to his end. Dumbledore 
is useful, yes, even helpful to him. That may very well be it as far 
as Snape feels. If DD treated me the way he treats Snape, I'd be 
hard-pressed to come up with a reason to stick around that long.

Mel


> 
> JKR says DD's voice is hers in the books and as the *creator* of 
> Potterverse -- similar parallel...
> 
> Brenda