Snape, Harry, Dumbledore, and flaws in the books
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Jul 12 21:31:58 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 105860
Laurasia:
After all, is he is a kind powerful headmaster, why does he let a
nasty bullying teacher bully his kids. Surely, Dumbledore should
stop it the second he discovers it. Either he doesn't know, or he
isn't the kind powerful head master Harry thinks he is, or else he
wants it to happen. >snip<
Pippin:
It doesn't seem to be Dumbledore's job to evaluate the teachers.
In PoA, it's the school's board of governors who tell Hagrid he
started too big and should have done flobberworms. Snape's
bullying style is unacceptable to a lot of us, along with
Trelawney's outright fraud and Hagrid's incompetence, not to
mention Binns, but the BoG apparently doesn't have a problem
with any of it.
It's also perfectly consistent with a Dumbledore who believes in
letting people make up their own minds and would
rather have people disagree with him and be wrong, than agree
only because he's Albus Dumbledore and he said so.
Laurasia:
> For instance, it would matter little whether Ron and Hermione
were there with Harry, so long as he made it through the
obstacles. Their presence there makes little difference to
Harry.<
You don't think it makes a difference to Harry that Ron was
willing to die for him? Or that he discovers that, despite
appearances, courage and friendship are more important to
Hermione than books and cleverness? Harry may not act any
differently in the short run, but this is a seven book series.
And what about the fact that Harry has to *choose* go on alone?
He knew he would be no match for Snape and he could have
gone back with Hermione to get help. Similarly, he could have
tried to help Ron open the blocked passage in CoS rather than
go on alone to the Chamber.
Laurasia:
>What is Hermione's breaking point? She's never been tested,
so we don't know. <
Pippin:
We know when she decided to break rules for Harry--that was a
test. There are many others. She's not the main character, so
her tests aren't going to be as dramatic as Harry's, and they're
not going to come when they would undercut his.
Laurasia:
What does it take to scare Ron?
> Hey, they guy goes into the forest after the spiders, even
though it is what he fears most in the world out of loyalty to his
friends- Harry, imprisoned!Hagrid and petrified!Hermione. He
doesn't runaway like a coward! He vomits into the pumpkin
patch, that's all!
> What does it take to make Ron lose his faith in Harry?
Pippin:
We know that. It happened in GoF, when Ron thought Harry had
entered the TWT without him. Again, Ron's tests aren't as
dramatic as Harry's and they are timed so that they don't distract
our attention from what Harry is doing.
Pippin
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