Shack and Sorting
Amey Chinchorkar
sherlockholme_ac at rediffmail.com
Tue Jul 13 05:13:44 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 105947
- Kizor
- I can't see any such line in my copy of PS, though my look wasn't
- conclusive.
Amey:
Hi, sorry for making you go through the book, that dialog was total imagination on my part :D
- Kneasy:
- Not I. He's shown too much fallibility to be omniscient and omnipotent.
- Quirrell, Tom's Diary, the Basilisk, Crouch!Moody, the failure of the
- Occlumency lessons, the inability to control or neutralise Umbridge;
- the list is long and totally unbelievable for someone omniscient and
- omnipotent.
Amey:
Just one thought here. The fallings of great people are also great.
- Neri:
- I think Snape in the Shack thought he is saving Harry's life from
- Sirius, and thus his account with James is settled, and he is finally
- free to trash James to his heart content.
- That's another reason why he wouldn't even consider the possibility
- that Sirius is innocent. If Sirius is innocent, then he (Snape) is
- not saving Harry's life.
Amey:
But what about him saving Harrys life in PS/SS when Quirell was trying to hex him. Snape would surely take the debt as settled then. (which in my opinion he did). He couldnt abandon Harry, also he had chance to get revenge on two of his worst enemies. And one more thought, didnt he remind Harry that they were out of beds, out of school premises, and with a convicted murderer. I am sure, if possible he would have tried to get Harry expelled there and then, if it was possible. (Wonder if Dumbledore used similar words to make him shut up about Lupin as an added incentive on top of reminding him about the *bond* created between him and James.)
- Arya
- So I
- say Ron was chosen for his loyalty to Harry.
Amey:
Dont you think that is odd even considering that we are talking about Harry who is so much important? I mean, is loyalty to a particular student a suitable thing for a prefect? I am not saying that this was not a point. I am saying this might be an afterthought, an added advantage.
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- vivian
- It was during OOTP that Voldemort became aware of his connection to
- Harry. Remember when Harry felt like a snake was rising inside of
- himself? When he wanted to attack DD? I think that this is the
- reason why DD needed to keep himself away from Harry.
Amey:
Yes, I agree here. LV would have thought it as a Win-Win situation. Either Harry would have harmed or killed Dumbledore, or Dumbledore would have been forced to kill or harm Harry (the one with powers to vanquish the Dark Lord). All in all, LV wins both ways. What I am thinking is, why didnt he try this earlier? Why was he so focused on getting the prophesy before? Did he consider that *he* had to kill Harry for prophesy to be fulfilled? Also, now that the prophesy is lost, will we see more scenes like when LV took over Harrys body in MoM? Wont this take Dumbledore further away from Harry now?
- happybean98:
-
- I'd have to agree with you somewhat here, a leaflet would be nice,
- but I still say that if Harry knew nothing about the WW, let alone
- Hogwarts until a day or so before he was sorted, and he still managed
- to figure out where he wanted to be, why couldn't anyone else?
Amey:
Harry didnt choose to be in Gryffindor, he chose not to be in Slytherin. He heard from Hagrid and Ron about the reputation of Slytherin, also heard Draco saying he wanted to be there, and his dislike for Draco would have also contributed something there. It was Hats choice to put him in Gryffindor out of three remaining houses.
Amey
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