The Trichotomy-Prophecy -- the answer -- the end ......

samnanya yswahl at stis.net
Tue Jul 13 07:44:56 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 105955

Pat
What if there are three people referred to in the prophecy? On 
her website, JKR says she worded the prophecy "extremely carefully."
What if:
The one = Harry Potter
The Dark Lord = Lord Voldemort
The other = Neville Longbottom

Samnanya
I have posted on this extensively and constantly several
months ago with minimal interest by the group until now.
IMO Dumbledore's comments in the awards banquet in
Sorcerors Stone contain THE vital clue as to
how the series ends.
 
It was not an accident that Dumbledore praises Neville the
highest by saving him for last for praise and giving him
the 10 points for his ability to Stand Up to His Friends that
secured the House Cup for Gryffindor during the first year.

On first reading, the trio got far more points for seemingly
far more difficult tasks, yet Neville was saved for last.
In fact it was Nevilles points that secured the victory in
Dumbledore's eyes - not HRH. Why did DD do that? What was 
his message? What clue did JKR leave us ?

The clue that solves it all...............
 
Now to the prophecy. What I think happens in the end is
that Harry confronts LV and defeats him bodily, but in the
process the non-corporeal LV takes over Harry's body as he
did briefly in OOP. HarryMort then raises holy hell all over
 the wizarding world becasue noone can bring themselves to
kill him -----  until  Neville "stands up to his friend" and
defeats Voldemort  by defeating HarryMort in the final battle.

Neville stood up to Harry once before in an event that was
all but forgotten, until Dumbledore pointed it out, and then
was promptly forgotten again!

But like all hidden clues, Neville's ability will save the 
the Wizarding World in Book 7, when he is able to stand up
to HarryMort WHEN NOONE ELSE CAN. Even Dumbledore admits he 
has a weak spot when dealing with Harry and his faiures in 
that area are the few we are privy to. So mark my words, 
Neville will be VERY important in the prophecy, and indeed,
the question mark on the orb was not there accidentally either.

NOw for the end of the series..........
Whether Harry dies or Neville dies while freeing Harry from
the occupancy of the Dark Lord is impossible to determine at
this point, but I am certain that one of them dies and the
other ends up with Hermione and lives happily ever after. 

Arguments for Harry dying - 

SPOILER FOR THE LITTLE WHITE HORSE by ELIZABETH GOUDGE
DO NOT READ NEXT SECTION IF YOU WANT TO ENJOY THAT BOOK
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The death of Harry would correspond to the "disappeareance"
of the Little White Horse that Marie, the young heroine,
longs for even as she lives happily ever after
at the end of the book  -- the Little White Horse also 
might [naah, probably does...]correspond to Harry's stag
petronus .... just as Marie would correspond to Hermione and
indirectly JKR - after all it was one of her favorite books--
In other words, at the end of the book The Little White Horse
is gone and so might be Harry ....
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Hermione met Neville before she met Harry and helped him
search for Trevor. Once she met Harry their friendship
 started to bloom and though she cared for Neville, she
clearly fancied Harry more. If you believe in the cycle
theory, then Neville "gets her back again" after Harry is
gone, though she will remember Harry forever even as she
is with Neville. 

Before you pooh-pooh this, at least try to get ahold of 
the Little White Horse by Elizabeth Goudge and read the last
chapter if you cant stomach the whole book. Once again, it
is not an accident that this book appears on jkr's bookshelf
on her website, and I firmly believe that you cannot guess 
how this series ends without having at least skimmed that
book and read the last chapter in detail.

So ..... in the end of the series ....

1 - either Harry or Neville die, and
2 - Hermione ends up with the survivor.

and if you disagree with this, please either come up with
a better ending or, if you have read TLWH or other book you
think might have influenced jkr, plow through my logic
[or lack thereof] and rip it to shreds just like Evil!Lupin
would  {just kidding...)








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