Prefects and points
Mel
melaniertay at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 13 22:01:08 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 106096
Del <delwynmarch at y...> wrote:
> I, Del, wrote:
> Ron made *amazing* choices for someone normal.
> Del replies :
> I'll be simple. If anyone, *anyone*, even my husband who is my very
> best friend, asked me to go in a bad big forest to follow spiders,
> I would tell them to get lost. Ron made a VERY CONSCIOUS choice that
> day. And on many other days too.
Ron's a great guy and he's now coward. If he was he wouldn't be
in Gryf. Would your husband divorce you if you left him to face
something like that alone? Not to be rude, but something to think
about.
> Del replies :
> Harry doesn't own Ron, Ron doesn't owe Harry anything, and I'm
> sure Harry would *hate* to know that Ron is unhappy with him. He'd
> be the first one to push Ron to pursue his dreams, no matter how
> selfish.
Normally, this would be true. However, it would negate all his
previous choices towards fighting Voldemort if he left Harry. Harry
isn't typical. He is the kid of the prophecy that is supposed to
defeat Voldemort. If Harry loses a lot of wizards will die and
there will be "dark times" again. In normal life, I'd agree with
you. In this case Ron really doesn't have any more choice than
Harry. Both Harry and Ron COULD choose to run away to Alaska, go
dark or fight. There's really nothing else.
> Arya wrote :
> > Of all the things in Ron's life, if he survives the war as
> > Harry's best friend, he would be lucky to just alive.
>
> Del replies :
> So he shouldn't shoot for the stars or plan for his future ?
Honestly, I thought the career planning was a tad strange for Harry,
but not Ron. Really what are the odds he'll need it? I'd like to
here Bagman's answer to that one. Still, it is difficult to plan a
future in the middle of war.
> Del replies :
> Without Ron, Harry would never have made it past the giant chess
> set, for example.
They wouldn't have done anything without Ron. If nothing else,
Harry is nonfunctional without him. It was Ron that was taken into
the lake as the most important thing in his life. Harry's nothing
without Hermione and Ron.
Del replies :
> I never found any great fun in championing the obvious hero. He
> already has tons of fans, and he's the author's favourite anyway.
> So ever since I was a very little girl, I found myself attracted
> to the underdog, and quite often repelled by the so-obvious-hero-
> who-has-all-the-qualities. The underdog is the one who has the
> real choice : remain an underdog or reach for the glory. The hero,
> as you said concerning Harry, often has little choice but to be a
> hero. Booooring. Unless he starts as an underdog (a real one, not
> like Harry, who was a Prophesied Hero in disguise).
It is a Trelawny prophecy and possibly a crock leaving him still the
underdog. However, Harry has a choice. I'd love to see him choose
to tell DD to take a hike. Or him and Ron choose to go to Jamaica
and live out their lives. (OK not really, but still...he has the
same choices Ron has)
> Telling me that I should invest my attention only in Harry is like
> telling me that only the rich and the beautiful people count in
> real life. I shouldn't bother caring about the ordinary people who
> don't apparently have the power to change things ? Sorry, I will.
Harry is neither rich nor good looking. He's been poor most of his
life and he's afraid to spend the small pile of gold. (it wasn't as
big as people make out if memory serves). However, I think they're
all ordinaryish. If one was spectactular why would you need 3?
"Mel"
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