Hermione's Reaction to... Was: Re: Harry's first Kiss (is it a smoke screen?)

[paul_terzis]

No: HPFGUIDX 106166

> 
> Del wrote :
> Ron knows *very well* what following Harry might entail : death for
> himself and his loved ones.
>  
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> 
>  Sorry Paul, but it doesn't take a Prophecy for any soldier to 
realise
> that he will have to kill or be killed. *Everyone* involved in the
> war, Prophecy or not, can be faced with that possibility of having 
to
> choose between killing or being killed. 
> 
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> 
> 
> Well, I don't know how to tell you that nicely, Paul, so I'll just 
be
> frank but please don't be offended, OK ? You cannot tell me or 
anyone
> else how we're supposed to see the books. You can see them 
exclusively
> as the Odyssey of HP if you like, but you can't force us to see 
them
> that way if we don't want to. And I don't want to, because it 
*bores*
> me to death to consider them that way. Sorry. There are people out
> there who identify Harry's story with Alchemy or with different 
kinds
> of spiritual journeys, it's their right and I won't go telling them
> off for that, even if I couldn't relate less to what they are 
saying.
> Mind you, I'm not saying that HP is only a love story either, even
> though I could argue that every book, every life, is about finding
> love and acceptance. But I won't, because I don't mind admitting 
that
> the love stories are only sub-parts of the bigger story in HP, 
which
> is the war against LV. But I happen to *like* those sub-parts, so I
> will dwell on them if I want. Non mais >:-) !
> 
> 
    Dear Del don't worry. I am not so easily offended. After all we 
are all members of the same group and on-line friends. I may not 
made myself clear at some points so allow me to clarify in order to 
settle any misunderstanding. 
1) We are talking about teenagers and specifically the students of 
Hogwarts. From them only HP has experiences about a real warfare. He 
is the only one except Neville who saw a comrade in arms and a 
friend dying. He is the only one who fought against LV himself and 
he is the only one who suffered an extensive torture. RW , HG, NL, 
LL, GW fought with valor at the side of HP in the MoM but that was 
nothing next to what HP has been facing. So I have a point when I am 
saying that Ron and the others do not understand fully what it means 
war against LV. 
2) A soldier is someone that he is trained to kill if there is need 
in order to defend his beliefs. I am sorry to say that but almost 
noone from the wizards and witches of the light side are trained to 
kill. Why? Because they don't believe in killing. They can counter, 
deflect and at the most incapacitate the enemy. Only Aurors are 
trained to kill. The students of the Hogwarts are not Aurors and 
therefore are not trained to kill. And that includes HP.
3) Odyssey is the voyage of Ulysses from Troy to his home Ithaka.
It is a hymn in honor of every man or woman ,that against all odds 
and universal conspiracies, manages to overcome any obstacle and 
fulfil his or her dream. It is a voyage physical, emotional and 
spiritual demanding. But Odyssey is not only that. Odyssey is also a 
hymn to true love because at the end Ulysses finds his true love, 
named his wife. 
4) My previous post has nothing to do with reprimands against 
anyone. I am not the master of the universe to tell anyone what he 
should think or do. I am not also God to be always right. I respect 
every member of this group and his/her beliefs. I was just tired 
from the endless repetition of the same points the last couple of 
months since I became a member of this group. I am a shipper too. I 
like to analyse the love aspects of the HP series also. But lately 
this debate reminds me a boxing match. '- HP leads 15 to 14 against 
RW. -No, no. It's the opposite. - No you forget that scene in book 
2. - No you are wrong that scene means exactly the opposite. - Ok 
lets count again to see who will get the girl.' I am not exlude 
myself from this. I repeat I am not exclude myself from this. I 
suggest we find together a better way to analyse the love aspects of 
this Saga. If my previous or even this post offended anyone I 
sincerely apologise to thee.

With my Best Regards to every member of this group,
Paul

P.S. I also apologise because my last 2-3 posts in this thread have 
not entirely connected with the given subject.