Ron (was Hermione's Reaction to... )

[delwynmarch]

No: HPFGUIDX 106183


Mayeaux wrote :
> Del, Del, Del....It seems to me after reading a good portion of your 
> posts that you're making it seem as if Ron should be the *central* 
> character in the HP series...IMO!

Del replies :
Sorry for not starting each and every single sentence by "I know that
Harry is the hero, he will be the one who saves the day in the end,
but I thought it'd be nice if..."
I NEVER EVER EVER said that I wanted Ron to be the hero and central
character of the books. And I never will. 

Mayeaux wrote :
> It's called Harry Potter and "___" for a reason.   It's essentially 
> about Harry Potter and his life and all that it entails.  His POV, 
> his interpretations of events, and his experiences are all important 
> to the series.  

Del replies :
So ? Just because the books are about Harry doesn't mean Harry is the
only one to whom good things can happen. It doesn't mean Harry is the
only one who will reveal himself to be a hero in the end. There's way
enough room for several heroes in the Potterverse, and different kinds
of hero too. Just because other people will get their part of glory
won't detract from Harry's glory. There's no need to be so
over-protective of Harry : he *will* shine, I have no doubt of that,
and most probably brightest of all. That doesn't mean others can't
shine too.

Mayeaux wrote : 
> With out him there really wouldn't be one now would there?  In most 
> of your posts it has been 'Ron *deserves* this' 'Ron *needs* 
> this' 'He has to *have* that''It wouldn't be fair to Ron if this 
> happened'...and so on!

Del replies :
Because I was discussing *Ron*. Ron, not Harry. If you don't want to
discuss Ron, if you can't be concerned by anybody but Harry, then
leave me alone. I can be concerned by many people at the same time.
And when discussing one person, I will concentrate on that person,
mention that person's qualities and shortcomings, express my thoughts,
hopes and doubts about that person, and that person only. That's the
only way that seems fair to me : discussing someone in the absolute,
not in the relative. I'm discussing Ron, not Ron-compared-to-Harry.

Mayeaux wrote :
> Let's build a bridge shall we...  And even if a character can take on
> a life of its own, as you stated in a previous post, with there only 
> being 2 books left in the series there's not much more room for him 
> to be *bigger* than what is intended by the author!  Ron is Ron 
> because JKR writes him as such.  

Del replies :
You're the one who is showing little respect to JKR. She's shown
numerous times that she can develop a secondary character in a single
book. So I won't put any limits to what she could do to a primary
character like Ron.

Mayeaux wrote : 
> Let's stick to canon "Ron" and not fanfic "Ron"!

Del replies :
As I told Arya yesterday, it's been *years* since I read my last HP
fanfic, and even then I read less than a dozen. My Ron is strictly canon.

Mayeaux wrote :
> IMO it seemed as if you were running off at the mouth when you said 
> 'I don't care anymore what JKR has to say about Ron, not since she
>  proved that she's prejudiced against him'...Are you mad?  It's her 
> character.  Without them we wouldn't even be having this discussion 
> and you wouldn't have your precious Ron to talk about and defend!  

Del replies :
I fail to see your point.
If you mean that JKR can't dislike Ron because she wrote him, then go
and read what she has to say about the Dursleys.
If you mean that I should pay more attention to what JKR's opinon
about Ron is, I'll answer that we can have differing opinion on her
characters just as we would with RL people. She knows more about Ron
than I do, true, and it might be those reasons that make her dislike
him, but it doesn't mean that those reasons will make *me* dislike
him. When she writes more about him, when (if) she reveals things that
in her mind make her dislike Ron, maybe they will make me love him
even more. Just because JKR doesn't like someone doesn't mean that
person is unworthy of love and interest and championing, in RL as well
as in her books. I don't have to love all the characters she loves and
only the characters she loves.
And we do *not* know what she will write. Neville was a joke in the
first books. Look what he's become.

Mayeaux wrote : 
> Could you show a little respect to the woman who has given us a 
> window (more like a gateway) into her world of: love, honor, 
> courage, loss, pain, sorrow, regret, loyalty, friendship, and most 
> of all MAGIC!  Who are you to say what JKR has control over anymore 
> or not?  The character of Ron might have taken on a life of its own 
> in a way, but it is still ultimately up to JKR where it will end!!!!

Del replies :
I'm actually showing JKR the greatest sign of respect any author could
dream of : I'm INVESTING myself in her books, I'm caring for some of
her characters, I'm actively hoping for some things to happen.

JKR has control over many things, but not over the way I read her
books and invest myself in them. She might *hope* that I will care for
Harry more than anything else, but she can't force me too.

And yes of course, it's up to JKR how it will all end. I never denied
that. But that doesn't mean I can't hope for specific things. I have
every right to care about a character, even if I know he's not the one
who will defeat LV in the end, and hope that this character will
reveal himself to be a true hero too, and that he will shine in his
own right too.

Del