Wishes come true

Steve asian_lovr2 at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 14 16:37:14 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 106210

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "theadimail" <theadimail at y...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>  All this talk about Ron made me think. In the first book Ron sees 
> himself in the mirror of Erised and he sees that he is the headboy, 
> quidditch captain and winnder of quidditch cup. One of these already 
> has happened. Ron did win the quidditch cup. So is he headed down
> the Headboy and Captain way?
>
> And Harry of course sees his parents in the mirror. Will he get to 
> meet them in some form or is that wish going to remain just that 
> forever-- a wish?
> Bye
> Adi

Asian_lovr2:

While I would like for Ron to be Head Boy, I don't see how that can
happen. Head Boy is not King (or captain) of the Prefects. That seems
to be an independant honor unrelated to Prefect. Also, Head Boys is
not a House appointment, it's a school wide honor; only one Head Boy
and Head Girl in whole school, at least, that's my impression. 

So, while I dearly want Ron to be Head Boy, I just don't see how it
could happen.

To some extent, Ron seeing himself as Head Boy is Ron's way of seeing
that he has distinguished himself, but he is only seeing his
distinction for the limited framework of a small boy. So, his real
goal is achievement and distinction not Head Boy, and before the
series is over, I think Ron will have achieved his goal, but in ways
he never imagined.

By the way, I have speculated in the past that Ron will become
Quidditch Captain. The more obvius choice would be Harry, and I think
Harry will be for while, but in the end I think he will turn to role
over to Ron.

There is also the possibility that Harry will be under too much
pressure from other things to have time or inclination to play
Quidditch. I hate to see that happen, but I was thinking the other
night about Harry running the DA Club. If the club is school wide,
that means he has a lot more students to teach. True he does have the
core DA member to act as his assistance, but having assistance means
preparing them ahead of time for the general open DA Club classes.
That implies one meeting for the Senior DA members to prepare for the
open meeting of the general DA Club members. 

Harry will have fewer classes, but those classes will be more
demanding. To be an Auror he must have 5 NEWTs with a minimum of
'Exceeds Expectations' in each class; likely classes,
Transfigurations, Charms, DADA, Potions, and one other. He will drop
Divination, Astronomy, History of Magic, and Herbology or Care of
Magical Creatures. Even with that reduced schedule, I see tremendous
demands on his time and attention. Add DA Club, and he will be a busy
boy. 

Not saying with certainty that Harry will not play Quidditch, just
saying that eventually I think Ron could be Quidditch Captain.


As far as Harry seeing his parents, the only discusions we've had so
far that touch on that are the 'Underworld' discussion. The theory is
 that Harry, like many mythological heroes, will make a journey to the
'underworld', in other words, a journey 'beyond the Veil'. 

The speculation is that Harry will go into The Veiled Archway in the
Dept of Mysteries into the land of the Dead, although, the reasons why
that might happen are varied. While in the 'land of the dead' he will
see Sirius and his parent, and will discover information that will
help him defeat Voldemort, as well as a variety of other scenerios.

Harry's parents are dead, so under normal circumstances, even in the
wizard world, there is no way for Harry to meet them. So, other than
the 'journey to the land of the dead', I don't see how it could happen.

Remember that fullfilling what was seen in the Mirror doesn't
necessarily mean literally fullfilling those visions. Harry may meet
his parents in some symbolic way, and Ron may achieve recognition but
no in the ways he originally imagined.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/asian_lovr2








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