FF: Snape, Harry, Dumbledore, and flaws in the books
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jul 15 14:11:33 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 106380
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dzeytoun" Valky:
> Harry is important also,
> > but Snape is and has always been a least of his worries.
Like a niggling itch that you can scratch occassionally but really
it's just an annoyance. A nothing really. <<
Dzeytoun:
> That certainly does not seem to be the situation at the end of
OOTP. JKR went to a great deal of trouble to set up that "I hate
Snape and will never forgive him," scene. I wouldn't say that
means Snape will be a nothing to Harry in the ensuing books.<
I thought it meant that JKR had put the shoe on the other foot. It
is now Harry who has an unjust grudge against Snape, not for
bullying him or the failure of Occlumency, but for supposedly
goading Sirius to leave Grimmauld Place.
Dzeytoun:
> How so? If an older child is abusing a younger one, it is a very
poor parent indeed who does not punish the older child? I have
to admit I am totally confused by your comment. <
Pippin:
Well, that's just it. Snape, though he behaves very childishly, is
not a child, and would only resent being treated like one. He
would not accept restrictions being placed on him that are not
placed on the other teachers, who are free to upbraid their
students and favor their own houses if they feel like it.
If another adult is abusing your child, you haven't got the right to
punish that adult yourself. You either take it to the authorities, or
remove your child from the situation. In this situation,
Dumbledore is the authority, but by the standards of the WW
what Snape is doing is not abusive. IMO, Dumbledore has no
right to use his authority against Snape simply because he
personally finds Snape's methods distasteful. I think
Dumbledore would consider it self-righteous in the extreme--as
he says, he has no power to make other men see the truth.
Meaning, as McGonagall would put it, that he does have that
power, he's just too noble to use it.
Dumbledore could, as you suggest, remove Harry and Neville
from Snape's classes, but that would also make Harry feel more
like a failure and Neville more like a weakling. Besides, Snape
isn't just being mean when he threatens Trevor or says he's
going to test their antidotes--if Harry and Neville become Aurors
or Healers, lives are going to depend on their skills and they will
have to be able to function under that kind of pressure. If not, it
would be a very good thing if they never went near a cauldron
again.
I think, too, that if Snape ever understood Harry well enough to
offer him a sincere apology, Harry wouldn't need to hear it.
Pippin
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