Sirius Luring Snape

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No: HPFGUIDX 106554


Lissa:


Like so many things, that quote's vague enough to leave a lot of room 
for
interpretation. Sirius COULD have had a conversation with Snape, or 
put him
under an Imperius curse, but it's hard to tell.
The thing about that quote is it's Lupin telling the Trio about 
Sirius luring
Snape. I doubt Lupin was there for the actual 
conversation/lure/whatever
though. Lupin is sensitive enough to the consequences of his 
lycopanthy that he
probably would have whacked Sirius upside the head if he'd heard him 
trying to
lure Snape. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind- just based on the 
kind of
person Lupin is- that he had no idea this prank was happening.

R->Hey, out of lurking.. wanted to say a couple of things I really 
think this had more to do with Sirius being a boy.  And not thinking 
much about what he was doing.  Not taking anything seriously.  I 
don't think he put a jinx on Snape to get him to do this.  I think he 
thought Snape needed to mind his own business but hey if he wanted to 
know what they were doing so badly let him see.  I'm not saying he 
wasn't a jerk, but you can watch tons of Oprah shows where people 
confront the bullies who made fun of them and how they changed when 
they grew up.  I really just think Sirius got a kick out of picking 
on Snape and wasn't thinking anything would happen.  Yeah it shows he 
has no common sense but I don't think it was anything past him being 
a foolish young boy.  Lupin would have known how much danger snape 
would be in and no he would not have wanted Snape to come forth.  A) 
He would have hurt Snape and  B) He would be in deep deep trouble. 
Also, Lupin is more sensitive after dealing with people's reactions 
to himself



I also think Sirius did not spend a lot of time planning this prank. 
If he did,
he probably would have thought about the implications it would have 
on Lupin.
(I always had the impression that Sirius had a more "romantic" idea 
of what it
was like to be a werewolf, he never really thought about the effects 
on Lupin
himself, or the consequences. At that point, I don't think he'd seen 
any
murderous rages or anything.)

R->Well to be fair, it seemed that once the boys could be together 
they all had a more romantic notion.  I don't have the book in front 
of me (POA), but there is one part where Lupin says he never wanted 
to tell DD about Sirius being an Anigmus because it would show that 
he betrayed DD's trust and even though he felt guilty every time they 
came back he was excited to plan next month's adventure.  So that 
said, he enjoyed their adventures.  And Sirius mentioning in OOTP 
that he wished it was a full moon isn't really that insensitive of a 
comment since all the boys loved a full moon.  

It doesn't shock me that Lupin is sure Snape would have done it. It's 
totally
in character for Snape to be a snoop, and obviously he DID do it 
(it's very easy
to be sure with hindsight on your side!).

R->Yeah remember Snape was trying to get them expelled.  Although he 
was dumb for thinking Sirius would make it easy, he probly wasn't 
thinking.  Wonder how all this hatred started anyway.


The more I think about it, the more I think the prank might have been 
a turning
point for Sirius. Dumbledore seems to be the king of deftly-crafted 
guilt
trips, with Lupin as his crown prince. Between the two of them (and 
James, who
was obviously ticked), I'm betting money Sirius got some major 
emotional torture
afterwards. But the fact it was so childish and so crude leads me to 
think he
didn't spend hours coming up with ways to lure Snape.

R->I agree.. I really think this was stupid prank pulled by a silly 
boy.   

Robyn