James gave his life, why no protection from him?

garybec garybec101 at comcast.net
Fri Jul 16 21:55:15 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 106593

> 
> > Max responds:
> > 
> > Something special about Lily is certainly possible, but I can't 
buy
> > this whole selfless sacrifice for love automatically means 
ancient
> > magic protection. If that were true people would have heard 
about it
> > before. There would be stories and legends about it. Lily could 
not
> > possibly be the first person to sacrifice herself for someone she
> > loved in the wizarding world, after all.  Yet we know from 
reading
> > PS/SS that Harry surviving the AK curse was unheard of.
> > 
> > So something is up there as far as I'm concerned. It makes no 
sense
> > that this type of protection would occur automatically.
> 
> Jake replies:
> 
> I agree. Afterall, Moody (i.e., Crouch Jr.) says in GoF that the 
AK 
> is "unblockable" and that HP is the only person to have survived 
it. 
> Like you say Max, if there was a way to block or defend or do 
> anything to AK why would it vanish from the collective conscious 
of 
> the WW. If this selfless sacrifice for love idea ends up being the 
> answer to the mystery I will be greatly dissapointed (because it's 
> hard to believe that LP was the first person to die defending 
someone 
> they love--especially given the age of terror).
> 
> Here's an idea. We know about Lily's wand, we know that you can 
find 
> out what spell was cast last from a wand (Amos Diggory teaches us 
> this in GoF).....so what if HP finds Lily's wand and discovers 
what 
> the last spell she cast was? I wonder where that wand went 
anyway....
> 
> Jake

Becki's back;

Perhaps there is more to it than just the Mother sacraficing her 
life for her 
child. Maybe there are more factors that need to be in place.  The 
date, October 31, possibly has something to do with it or the fact 
that Harry was 1 year from conception date (calender wise anyway), 
the moons aligning a certin way, etc...

I do think the person had a valid point who came up with the theory 
that Lily made the "choice" to die for Harry where as James died in 
battle, (I know doing the same thing but...I don't think he had a 
choice, at least acording to LV.)

And, not to dis Fathers love, I never ment that, just that I think a 
Mothers bond is different, not that one is better than the other 
(and definatly, not in all circumstances).

Cheers, Becki





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