Pureblood Vs. Halfblood Vs Fullblood

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 106602

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jakedjensen" <jakejensen at h...>
wrote:
> > Tilly adds:
> > Similarly the child of two muggle-born wizards is not "muggle-
> > born".  Can't be. Both parents are wizards.

> Jake replies:
> 
> ... Second, a child of two muggle-born wizards can be muggle-born 
> because, according to the purists, they have no old family blood. 
> Remember, muggle-blood refers to one's absence of old family blood 
> (which, since there is only one other category possible, means the 
> person has muggle-blood). 

Asian_lovr2:

Not quite.

First, the terms are subjective, they a defined not by formal absolute
definition, but by the opinion of a given speaker at a given time.

To some, if you have a few generations of pureblood, then that's close
enough. To others, any muggles anywhere, no matter how many generation
back, makes you contaminated, and therefore not a pureblood.

The son or daughter of a witch and a wizard is always a FULL-blood,
but not necessarily a Pureblood. 

Harry as an example is a fullblood, magical blood on both sides of his
family, but because his mother, a witch, was muggle born, his
bloodline is not pure through many previous generation, therefore, not
pureblood.

I admit Harry has been referred to as a halfblood, but that is a
matter of the opinion of the speaker and related to the context of a
given conversation, and not a statement of absolute geneological fact. 

Seamus on the other hand, has a muggle father and a witch mother,
therefore, he is Halfblood; half magical, half muggle.

Pureblood is the most subjective. Certainly, the result of a
magic/magic union, but every person defines it differently and to a
different degree. The implication is that your ancestry traces back
through countless generations without any muggle blood. However,
regardless of their pureblood mania, I suspect virtually all alledged
purebloods have a muggle hiding in their geneological woodshed somewhere.

A Squib is a magically retarted person born to a magical family. You
can't be a Squib without a direct line of magical ancestry. In
addition, I don't believe Squibs are 100% devoid of magic. I think
they are just extremely handicapped in the realm of spell magic, a
handicap which probably extends to potions. 



> 
> ...edited...
> 
> Tilly adds:
> > Then of course there are squibs, where do they fit in? I mean the 
> > son of a squib (from a pureblooded family, of course) and a 
> > muggle. Would he be muggle-born or a halfblood? :)
> > 
> 
> Jake replies:
> Squibs are the exception that, I think, proves the rule. See, squibs 
> don't have magical blood, but they can still be connected to the 
> bloodline. So squibs can still be pure-blood. The aristocracy can't 
> have it any other way, because what if one of their own becomes a 
> squib (by the way, I always thought a great t-shirt slogan would 
> be "Squib Happens")? So, if a squib and a muggle-born had a child, 
> the child would be half-blood (squibs relation to the bloodline). 
> 
> Just my thoughts,
> 
> Jake


Asian_lovr2:

Squibs are very tricky to define. In a sense they do have pure magical
blood, magic father, magic mother, but they don't have any magic.
Geneologically, biologically they have magic blood and ancestry, but
again they don't have any magic. Or none to speak of; I do believe
they have some. 

The number of non-magical generations of Squib decendants it takes to
finally convert to a muggle, again, as with pureblood, is subjective.
The number is different to different people depending on the depth of
their prejudice.

If a Squib marries a muggle and produces non-magic children, then they
have an extremely high likelihood of producing subsequent generations
of non-magical children. 

But if a Squib marries a magical person, the likelihood that they will
produce non-magical children is extremely thin. You have magical genes
on both sides of the family, even though, you only have magic on one
side. 

My main point is that Pureblood is very subjective, different people
define it in different ways at different times.

Just passing it along.

Steve/asian_lovr2