Harry and Hagrid (re: Two Crazy Theories)

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 106664

Iris:
> Do you think of Albus Dumbledore? He would be a wonderful half 
> blood prince. And he is necessarily going to play an important 
> part in the sixth book, simply because Harry might feel resentful 
> towards him and think he's responsible for the loss of Sirius. 
> Maybe Dumbledore will be the next important character to die, I 
> don't know. Or maybe he will turn out to be less powerful than he 
> seems to be. Maybe not less powerful than Voldemort, but less 
> powerful than Harry. It would  be logical: Harry as at least one 
> power Dumbledore doesn't have: the power to vanquish the Dark Lord.

Jen: 
Actually, I like your explanation better than Dumbledore dying in 
Book 6. Because I think the key for Book 6 is Harry moving beyond 
his dependence on Dumbledore's explanations and seeking Truth for 
himself. Dumbledore has played a very specific role in Harry's life, 
as protector of Harry and the Prophecy, and that role will now be 
subsumed under the coming War and Harry's role in defeating 
Voldemort.

JKR alludes to this in her Royal Albert Hall apprearance:

"...as people who have finished Order of the Phoenix will know, 
Dumbledore has had to step back a little bit from Harry in an effort 
to teach him some of life's harder lessons." (June 26, 2003)

But I still hope Dumbeldore is the HBP and we get a better view 
of 'how and why' he came to be who he is!


*Jen from previous post*:
> "I was particulary fascinated by the idea that Book 5 was the 
Nigredo
> phase, or dissolution, symbolized by Sirius Black. As he dies, and
> will most likely be reborn in a new form, so does the Nigredo stage
> give way to the next stage Albedo, or purification, and finally the
> last stage you talk about Iris, the Rubedo."

Iris:
> I agree with dear Sirius being the symbol of the Nigredo phase in 
> OotP.
> But he is not the one who dies and will be reborn in a new form, 
> IMO. He dies, yes, but he is not playing the part of the 
initiated. 
> This is Harry's part. Harry is the chosen one. 

Jen: It *is* Harry who dissolves and symbolically dies to The Boy 
Who Lived in OOTP, like you said later on. To me Sirius is the 
literal example to Harry's symbolic one, and that's why I think 
we'll see him again in some form (that and JKR's cryptic comments on 
her website!).

Iris:
> Reading that book was a Nigredo phase for us too, it was uneasy 
and 
> disturbing sometimes. 
> Now,in a sort of way, we are initiated too. It's not just an 
> entertaining and gripping book we are holding by now in our hands. 
> It's also a metaphysical work, that requires more than our liking 
> for reading.

Jen: Yes! Uneasy and disturbing describes how I felt reading OOTP at 
times--what's happening to my beloved Harry, Sirius, Dumbledore--
*all* the characters I've grown to love and expect to act a certain 
way? Disillusionment charms, indeed!! The Alchemy symbolism is the 
only thing that makes sense to me for explaining the 'scorched 
earth' feel of OOTP. 

Thanks for replying Iris! Your thoughts are always illuminating.

Jen Reese