Did James and Lily know about the prophecy?
mhbobbin
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Sat Jul 17 18:59:27 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 106690
Aggie wrote:
I didn't think that James, Lily, Frank, Alice etc
knew about the prophecy. It's not mentioned either way in canon (is
it?). It was my understanding that only DD, the eavesdropper and
then consequently, LV knew. Not sure where I got this idea from but
it's good to know that I'm not the only one!
David Gabbard:
I'm not sure if James and Lily knew about the prophecy, but Prisoner
of Azkaban,
American Edition, Page 204:
"...Fudge dropped his voice and proceeded in a sort of low rumble.
Not many
people are aware that the Potters knew You-Know_who was after
them..."
mhbobbin writes:
Further to this passage, it seems to follow IMO that Lily and James
probably did know about the prophecy. Even (in PoA) 12 years after
the GH attack, it was not well known--per Fudge anyway-- that the
Potters had actually gone into hiding, and knew that Voldemort was
specifically seeking them.
It's easier to keep the motivation to their hiding, including the
prophecy, secret if you keep the hiding secret too. Had one of the
motivations for their hiding not been the prophecy--why would it not
be well known that they were in hiding? If the WW knew that
Voldemort was specifically after the Potters,and the Potters knew
it, wouldn't they ask, like we have been asking, why?
DD was working closely with the Potters and the Longbottoms in the
OotP. When he advised the Potters, and maybe the Longbottoms, to go
into hiding because LV was looking for them, it would have made
sense to also tell them of the prophecy. Perhaps he didn't think
they could handle this knowledge but I have trouble believing that.
They had, after all, thrice defied LV. But then DD sometimes baffles.
And in the Harry's dementor-induced flashbacks, he hears a man
believed to be James yelling to Lily to take Harry and run. That is
certainly not definitive evidence as any parents would try to
protect their baby, but I believe for all the reasons above that
Harry's parents knew about the prophecy.
As for the Prophecy--has Dumbledore told us everything about the
prophecy yet? I wasn't satisfied that the prophecy was so important
to the present--would LV know how to defeat Harry now if he only had
the second half of the prophecy? I don't think so---but keeping him
ignorant is never a bad idea.
As for the Longbottoms: Why were the Longbottoms tortured? Other
than revenge or because they might know what happened to LV. Etc. I
wonder if Bellatrix and friends thought the Longbottoms knew the
second half of the prophecy? and thought that might help them find
LV.
mhbobbin
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