Three Black sisters on a tree
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Sun Jul 18 03:51:20 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 106732
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nkafkafi" <nkafkafi at y...>
wrote:
> In OotP, Ch. 6, we get a peek at the Black family tree. Most of it
is pretty vague, but interestingly JKR makes sure to relay the exact
> position of the three Black sisters: Andromeda, Bellatrix and
> Narcissa.
> this small portion
> of the tree looks like:
>
>
> R===B A N===L
> !
> D
>
>
> Legend:
>
> R) Rudolphus Lestrange
>
> B) Bellatrix Black
>
> A) Andromeda Black (burned)
>
> N) Narcissa Black
>
> L) Lucius Malfoy
>
> D) Draco
>
> Note: if you got Draco as Andromeda'a son (oh, horror!) it's
because you use an uneven font like "Times New Roman". You need to
convert it to an even font like "Courier New" and then Draco will
properly appear as Narcissa and Lucius's son.
>
Valky:
LOL I actually got Draco as Rudolphus' Son! When reading the message
board.
Neri continues:
> This order strongly suggests to me that Bella is the older sister
> Andromeda is the median and Narcissa is the youngest
> Now, I don't know anything about traditional genealogy, but
> family trees I've seen on the web almost always follow the
> convention of listing siblings from left to right according to
> their age.
> So if wizards follow muggle conventions in this, and if JKR's
editors didn't mess up the right order (again!), we can conclude
that Bella is the oldest, then Andromeda, then Narcissa.
>
> Now I properly credit Carol for first posting that Bellatrix is 3
yrs older than Sirius (and thus also the other Marauders, Lily and
> Snape). This follows from Sirius telling Harry: "I haven't seen
her since I was your age, unless you count a glimpse of her coming
into Azkaban." Since Harry had just turned 15 at this point, it
seems Sirius was in his forth (or possibly fifth) year at Hogwarts
when Bella was in her seventh year.
>
> This age creates a problem in my reconstruction <snip>
Valky:
All credit to you for noting the inconsistencies that appear Neri,
but respectfully, perhaps what you are seeing is not a Flint but a
clue to the order of things in the wizard world.
If we put the girls order on the tree as denoting youngest to eldest
from L-R instead Bella becomes the youngest, and Narcissa could well
be in Lucius Malfoy's same year at Hogwarts.
(although I definitely like very much the Snape and Narcissa may
have been friends connection underlining Snape and Lucius
familiarity this really does work in favour of canon and could
easily be true)
I did try looking at Sirius and Regulus tree canon to see if I could
back myself on the reverse order scenario but unfortunately there is
nothing on appearing order there at all.
Again respectfully, because you have obviously looked harder than I
on this particular matter, maybe it is so that JKR refers to the
Lexicon timelines as an additional note, not *only* because they are
accurate but also because they represent a tangible summary of the
canon that can more easily with the proper tools be flipped to show
the reverse order. More easily, that is, than a few scattered lines
in large pile of notebooks.
Neri concludes:
> My last question for today is: Is Andromeda still around?
It thus seems that we might have some reunion of the three Black
sisters before the end.
>
>
Valky:
Yes I think she is definitely around and that we will see them
altogether before too long.
Perhaps we will meet Andromeda at a memorial for Sirius in book six.
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