Vanquishing Voldemort (Nick)

[Amey Chinchorkar]

No: HPFGUIDX 106742

-	meltowne"
-	Was Tom Riddle (the muggle) really TMR's father, or did his mother 
-	just use his name?  Who was Marvolo?

Amey:
"My mother died just after I was born, sir. They told me at the
orphanage she lived just long enough to name me - Tom after my
father, Marvolo after my grandfather." (CoS)

Marvolo seems to be the name of his grandfather on his mother's side.  I mean the name is not mugglish enough, but looks like some noble name. Remember he is the descendent of Slytherin. But this is imagination on my part. Ready for *fors and againsts*.



-	David Gabbard: 
-	I'm glad you brought this quotation back up to the surface - What is Dumbledore referring to when he says "We both know there are other ways of destroying a man..."  Why/What do they BOTH know? Have either one of them already destroyed a man in a way worse than killing him? Did Bellatrix just do that to Sirius? Is Dumbledore referring to "vapormort"?

Amey:
Remember * Dumbledore is particularly famous for his defeat of the dark wizard Grindelwald in 1945*. I am sure he did that without killing Grindelwald. And as many posters believe, Tom had some part in that. Remember Tom was in school around 1942, he was Prefect (at least 5th year). So in 1945, he must be either just out of school r just finishing his school. He might have seen the battle, got some taste of Dark Powers there, and went on to discover more. Of course, he never tells us when he started calling himself Lord Voldemort (we know he used the name in school), so I am assuming, he got some inspiration from Grindelwald and also saw his defeat. Hi might have helped Dumbledore because he might not want another Dark Lord around. 

And he knows the amount of power Dukmbledore wields, so he is afraid of Dumbledore. He knows Dumbledore can defeat him (if not vanquish him). Wonder when is Dumbledore’ birthday!!! 

One more thought on prophesy, it says that the dark Lord will mark his vanquisher as his equal. So I suppose that rules out Dumbledore, as he is afraid of Dumbledore, Dumbledore  is not his equal, he is his superior.

Dumbledore mentions *destroying a man*, there are really many ways. He is already working on one of them for years. LV’s reputation is based on fear his name invokes in people, and Dumbledore is fighting against that for many years. (I mean, if some muggle looks at the name, he will surely think that the person with this weird name must be some ancient noble from some poor country who doesn’t have anything other than his title). Destroy the man’s reputation as a powerful dark wizard, show him nobody fears him and you destroy him. Take out his minions and he is alone, forced to do all the work himself. Unite all the people against him and the most powerful man will bend. Show him that his worst weapon (sowing discord among people) is useless, and he will be forced to change his strategy.

Anybody think of anything else?


Amey, who thinks life without recognition is worst than death



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