The Potion Puzzle

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 106969

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dcgmck" <dolis5657 at y...> 
wrote:
> > I will nominate that 
> > we will get the bottle of wine next. And the step back through 
> > history last, I dont know for sure why I think it will be in 
this order because there are many many reasons.
> ...... just as Quirrel was standing before the mirror in the *end* 
of PS.
> 
> dcgmck:
> Quirrel got burned; those of us who try to second-guess JKR 
> probably will too, but that IS the game right now while we wait 
> between texts, isn't it?
> 
> 
> 
> Valky:
I absolutely agree with that!

> dcgmck:
> Actually, if you accept Witley's logic and follow the clues given 
in  PS/SS, poison is always followed by wine, reading from left to 
> right.  Of course, the clue is such that it suggests that the 
nettle wine is always staying close (and to the right) of the 
poisons.  Either way, it can be perceived as a promise of 
entertainment to lighten the darker moments/texts.
> 

Valky:
And also such logic does completely imply that book 6 *will* 
be  "Beater" as it is the book in right side succession to the 
Chaser OOP.

By The Way, more indications that OOP was a chaser book in the "like 
poisoned honey" description of Umbridge, yeah?

OOP was definitley a poison book. A chaser Book..
Which leads me to a question I'd like to consider. I am presuming 
from your post, that you are somewhat in the agreement that the 
books seem to parrallel a game of quidditch being played as well as 
the players that they each seem to capture.
If so I'd like to put to you and anyone else considering this 
analogy to tally a score for each side from the events of the books.

I personally don't think either side scored until book four. The 
keepers in book three (secret keeper and timeturner/parrallel to 
keeper in going back) it seems to me deflected the attempts from 
each side.
ie Pettigrew escaped and Sirius escaped.
In book four I think that the *other* side to Harry scored an 
unanswered goal ie Voldemort rose, and in Book five (secret keeper 
dumbledore) deflected initial attempts by speaking for Harry in the 
trial, but I am thinking that maybe they did get one more in before 
the end. 
Which to me leaves the game 20-nil to the baddies. 
I reckon that that means one of the next books will be a score fest 
for Voldemort... any input from any one else there.


> Hm.. does that mean we're being promised that there will be an 
> entertaining finish? Or that we'll be dropped back at the 
beginning, left with all our philosophical conundrums intact?
> 

Valky:
I reckon that what it means is that the game starts and finishes 
with the seeker ie with Harry and his question.
But the zenith of the story will be the keeper. I think JKR will go 
as far back as the Founders of Hogwarts for that but its just my own 
humble opinion.


> In any event, the comment about James as Seeker is only in the 
film. 

Valky:
Book three does have a mini *Harry and James As One* event. 
Applying the logic that you speak of, this also could be escalated 
to a larger scale. 

Plus we, well Harry only *sees* James in the Chaser books with the 
exception of the Mirror of Erised which was a Seeker book. (correct 
me if I am wrong)

Although, JKR is saying James was Chaser to us outside the books 
inside them she definitely is pointing at James the Seeker for us, 
but perhaps she means Harry and Harry's "James within". *shrug* I 
don't know if that made any sense.