Books 6 & 7 - tragedy or triumph?

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 107009


> > Hans Andréa wrote: 
> Perhaps the decapitation will happen some other way. Perhaps by 
> magic, perhaps by some accident, I just don't know.
> 
> 
> Valky:
> What about floo heads then?
> It may be a symbolic way to separate their heads from their 
bodies. I have a few postulations that go with this theory but I 
can't seem to extricate R and H dying in some way during it, or at 
least being vulnerable to an attack without defence. 

> Hans: 
> I have one big question about Liberation. Perhaps you people can 
help me understand this. Why is this process often depicted as being 
full of suffering and sorrow, when in fact liberation is the most 
wonderful and beautiful thing there is. 

Valky:
Perhaps I should explain myself here, Hans. Just in case my post 
came across as implying I fear or might be adverse to the thought 
that Ron and Hermione, or any other characters, will die as a part 
of the series.

The fact is, I am not adverse to it, personally. What I *really* 
meant by saying I cannot extricate their deaths from the scenario 
*was not* that I think death should be avoided in the final books, 
but actually that I think even if the decapitation is presented in 
this symbolic fashion, R and H would still die. Their deaths would 
be essential if the scenario is to actually capture the essence of 
the liberation even in this symbolic way.  


I (Valky) previously said:
> Of course, I am probably entirely off the mark but at least its 
some possible scenarios that don't involve scenes of gratuitous 
carnage enacted on our favourite couple.
> 

Hans also replied:
> To attempt to answer my own question, perhaps the darkness and 
tragedy are there to offset the ultimate light and sublimity of it. 
I guess people are in fact attracted by the struggle of light 
against darkness. The harder and darker the struggle, the more 
effulgent the ultimate victory of the light.
> 


Valky now:
In this matter I thoroughly agree with you, Hans.
The story will become darker and that will definitely make the 
ultimate victory of Harry Potter all the more exhilarating for me.

To that end, I would be dissapointed if JkR was to, herself, attempt 
to muffle such a beautiful message with soft renderings of 
the "Death and Rebirth" or *too* mild portrayals of the suffering of 
Harry. 

I am positive that she won't. 
She has already done so, and very well, in her first book of the 
series. Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone *is the Childrens 
Book*. It is age appropriate and has the entire message encapsulated 
so brilliantly that JKR may never have needed to write another if 
she were just writing for children. 
I firmly believe that the series is intended to grow with the reader 
and the dark and serious themes that we expect at the end will not 
seem out of place in their context.

So here I am merely saying that, when I said we could avoid 
gratuitous carnage in the final books, what I intend is to 
acknowledge that the notion of decapitating our beloved R and H 
conjures an image of unnecessary graphic bloodshed in the context of 
the books. It is most likely, that *this* is what motivates the 
kneejerk reaction, that some of us might have, to a suggestion that 
the decapitation from the AW will be translated into the HP universe.
For those who can *only* understand this AW theme might be served by 
gratiutous carnage it is a preposterous concept. 

Myself, I am open to anything that Potterverse needs to throw at me, 
even severed heads.

Valky
(acknowlegding that thats a *horrible* joke but yet unable to take 
it away from the post and replace it with a line of equal meaning)

Best to All.