CHAPTER DISCUSSION: Chapter 23: Christmas On The Closed Ward
huntergreen_3
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Tue Jul 20 10:09:30 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 107012
>>>> 2) Why does Harry ask advice of no one, especially Sirius, whom
he trusts and has gone to before? <<<<
HunterGreen previously:
>>> He did go to Sirius, he just didn't find it very helpful. He went
to Sirius before they visited Arthur in the hospital, and
(essentially), Sirius just told him to not worry about it, and if it
was something to worry about Dumbledore would have told him. I think
that Sirius underestimates how much Harry would obsess about this
(and oddly enough HE doesn't go to Harry after Harry shuts himself
off from everyone). I think that Sirius cares about Harry a lot, but
doesn't know him very well. <<<
Lissa replied:
>> I REALLY like that point that Sirius doesn't know Harry. Not
really. They've had very limited contact, until OotP, and by OotP
Sirius was losing himself. I also think Sirius isn't always sure how
to communicate with Harry. Molly is somewhat right- he does think of
Harry as a hybrid of James and Harry. <<
HunterGreen:
I don't know about that. I think he sees Harry more as "James' Son",
than a James/Harry hybrid. As in, he feels a responsibility to Harry
and a kinship with Harry based on how well he knew James and Lily and
the fact that he his Harry's godfather. He wants to be Harry's friend
and help him out, but unfortunately he doesn't know Harry very well.
I've always liked Sirius because he stands alone as the only adult to
actually reach out to Harry beyond the times they happen to see each
other. Molly sends him things for Christmas, and is always happy to
have him come visit, but she doesn't specifically send him letters
(rather, she mentions him in letters to Ron, or Ron himself writes
letters to him mentioning his family's willingness to have Harry stay
with them). Dumbledore acts as some sort of father or grandfather
figure, but he doesn't really seek Harry out that often to talk to
him. He sort of happens upon him from time to time in his headmaster
role, or speaks to him when something really important has happened
(like in the end of each book). Harry forms a good relationship with
Lupin, but Lupin sort of disappears after that, and doesn't make an
effort to keep in touch with Harry (nor does he contact Harry
*before* he's his teacher, despite how close him and James were).
Harry is not the type who feels comfortable seeking people out
himself. He sort of fell into his friendship with Ron and Hermione,
and all the adults I mentioned would probably be willing to help
Harry with his problems, he just doesn't feel comfortable going to
them, even though they all know him better than Sirius. But Sirius is
quite different, in the fact that HE made the effort to keep in touch
with Harry, and said *specifically* to call on him with any problems.
Not only that, its noted in the beginning of GoF, that Sirius has
already sent Harry two letters since the summer began (added with the
letter at the end of PoA, that's 3 letters), and we don't know if
Harry has written a response to any of them.
Since you mentioned Molly...her attitude toward Sirius at the
beginning of OotP really got under my skin. I normally like her, in
many ways she reminds me of my own mother, but here its almost like
she's jealous of Sirius. She certainly doesn't respect his authority
when it comes to Harry (and he does have authority, James and Lily
appointed him Harry's guardian, as far as Harry's *parents* are
concerned, Sirius is allowed to make decisions on Harry's behalf),
and then she jumps to accusing him of equating Harry with James, and
says the exteremly mean-spirited "the thing is, it's been rather
difficult for you to look after him while you've been locked UP in
Azkaban, hasn't it?", which seemed pointlessly hurtful.
>>Interestingly, he seems to relate better to Harry in OotP when
Lupin is around.<<
And that may be because Lupin does know Harry. The two of them spent
considerably more time together, and Lupin has a better understanding
of personality than Sirius.
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