Fudge: Evil or what???
huntergreen_3
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Tue Jul 20 22:41:10 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 107090
Magda Grantwich <mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
>> It would be quite deflating, characterization-wise, if EVERYONE who
disagreed with Dumbledore turned out to be a DE or definitely evil. <<
HunterGreen:
But we're not talking about EVERYONE here, we're talking about one
man. In the case of Umbridge, I'd agree with you, if she turned out
to be a DE it would be sort of deflating, but there's far more shady
about Fudge than him not believing Voldemort has come back.
What do we know about Fudge? At first his introduced as a nervous,
sort of bumbling, oddly dressed beauracrat. Not too much of a threat
to anyone, and sort of matching the description of him calling for
Dumbledore's advice all the time in his early days at the post. He
takes Hagrid away, mentioning *several* times that pressure is on him
to do *something*. Of course taking Hagrid away won't help anything,
and I think he knows that, but he has to at least appear to be trying
to solve the problem. Then Malfoy comes in with the order to remove
Dumbledore, and Fudge does fight against it, so his actions are sort
of in the middle here. On the one hand, he's doing the one public
thing to help with the school that won't help in the least bit, but
on the other, he seems genuinally worried about Dumbledore leaving.
PoA, though, is where he gets sort of suspicious. A lot of the events
of PoA are a little off though. This starts with Sirius' escape from
Azkaban...its said over and over that he is the *only* person to ever
manage it, that is until, the mass revolt in OotP, because they had
help. However, Sirius' escape story is rather mundane, no grand use
of dark magic or specific cunning at all:
[PoA, chpt 19, pg 372; US ed]
'So, one night when they opened my door to bring food, I slipped past
them as a dog.... It's so much harder for them to sense animal
emotions that they were confused.... I was thin, very thin... thin
enough to slip through the bars.... I swam as a dog back to the
mainland.... I journeyed north and slipped into the Hogwarts grounds
as a dog.'
Why didn't anyone else escape before if it was that simple? The only
thing special he did was turn into a dog, and although his emotions
were 'different' it wasn't *impossible* for them to sense him.
Wouldn't it have been just as easy for someone else to slip out
(during their first few months there, before they are weakened), and
just run for it and then swim away or swim far enough to appaperate?
(although, I suppose there aren't *that* many life-long residents of
Azkaban, maybe the others don't think escaping is worth it). Its
oddly easy for him, unless he was helped somehow. The dementers don't
really talk to people that much--or ever--so if someone told them to
let Black go, who would ever find out? Who would be in that position?
Fudge.
Now, of course, there's the issue of motive, why would Fudge want to
let Sirius Black escape. If he wanted to kill Harry, that would be
the easiest way to do it. Perhaps after hearing that Black has been
talking in his sleep for a time, Fudge has an idea. If he makes it
easy for Black to escape, *he'll* kill Harry, and Fudge won't have
any blood on his hands. OR if Black doesn't manage to do it himself,
Fudge has a reason to dispatch the dementers into the school and onto
the train and into Hogsmeade, and tell *them* to kill Harry. Then
after the fact, all he has to to is stand back and comment, "Oh, I
don't know why they'd do that...".
Whether or not you agree with ESE!Fudge, it is clear that the
dementers do some odd things in PoA. We see them first on the train
to Hogwarts, when they get on mid-way through to search the cab.
Since I covered this already in another post(#98042), I'll just paste
it here:
>It struck me as odd that they would stop the train HALFWAY through
to search it, rather than doing it at the beginning of the trip.
Obviously, if Sirius was on the train, he would have got to Harry
long before the Dementers came to look for him. Of course, they could
have searched it BEFORE it loaded with students, but that makes
searching it several hours later sort of useless, doesn't it? And
their search is a little odd too. Its a fair estimate that the
Dementer searched each compartment of the train, ending with the last
one, where Harry was. The door opens, Harry passes out, then the
Dementer just stands there for a moment. Lupin asks it to leave, but
it doesn't move until he uses (I'm guessing) expecto patronum on it.
Now why is that? Its clear just opening the door who's in there and
who's not (especially since the dementer 'senses' rather
than 'looks'), and certainly no one else on the train had to use a
charm to get the dementer to leave (since none of them know it), so
why does it just stand there?
Perhaps they were dispatched on the train as soon as Fudge could get
them there (which was halfway through), with orders to find Harry,
and that's why it didn't leave until Lupin *forced* it to.<
Then later on, during the quidditch match, its mentioned that they
*all* are looking up at Harry, focusing their attention on him, in a
*huge* crowd. And of course there's the finale, after the dementers
have been *given permission* (meaning they usually DON'T have
permission) to use the Kiss on Sirius, they ignore him after he
passes out and go to Harry, who they *don't* have permission to do
anything to. (or do they?)
Fudge is the only character we've seen who appears to get along with
dementors (besides perhaps Voldemort). He uses one again in GoF, when
he goes up to "interview" Barty Jr. How odd that he both happened to
have a dementor on hand, and that it *immediately* went to Barty Jr.
and performed the kiss the moment it walked in the room. Like I said
above, its a fair guess that the dementors are NOT allowed to perform
the kiss on anyone they like, but they will (happily, I'm sure) do it
if they are TOLD to.
As to the issue of Fudge disagreeing about Voldemort's return, his
attitude and feelings on the subject are interesting to say the least
at the end of GoF. Right after Crouch Jr. is killed he begins by
denying that Crouch was anything but a murderer and a psychotic
(implying that its not that much of a loss that he "died" before
being able to testify), then he tries to debunk Voldemort's return by
saying that the word of Harry and and Barty Jr. aren't enough, he
tries to change the subject at one point, accusing Dumbledore of
trying to de-stabalize him, and then when he's faced with evidence he
cannot deny (Snape's dark mark), he says 'I have nothing more to
add.' and leaves.
His attitude goes from stubborn, to angry, to accusatory, to fearful,
and finally just exhausted. Even when he's exhausted though, his
reaction is to still feebily keep up the charade that he doesn't
think Voldemort could *possibly* be back, at one point *pleading*
with Dumbledore to believe him. Then, like I said above, when he runs
out of ways to deny it, he just leaves. It seems like he's motivated
by something else here. Either its just a basic love of power, and
his desire to NOT have to be concerned with telling the public that
Voldemort is back, or he's knows it for a fact and is trying to cover
it up.
There are other things odd about him too. For one thing he has a
strange relationship with Lucius Malfoy. He goes out of his way to
greet Lucius at the World Cup, he's "visibly affronted" when Harry
calls him a DE, and he's meeting with Lucius the day of Harry's
trial. Meeting with him privately. Now, I know how much money changes
hand between the two men, but if he's not ESE, he's seriously
corrupt.
Also, he appears to be at the VERY least, mildly prejudice. He makes
comments about both Hagrid and Madam Maxine being half-giants, AND
comments about Lupin and his werewolf-ness during his argument with
Dumbledore in GoF. And then Dumbledore accuses him of being blinded
by his love of power and that he places too much importance on blood-
purity, a charge that Fudge doesn't dispute. And Dumbledore says this
shortly after Dumbledore was 'staring hard at Fudge, as though seeing
him plainly for the first time.'.
The guy has some questionable motives, to say the least. And his
constant way of appearing nervous in almost every time we see him
(during which Dumbledore is always present) is kind of strange too. I
just wouldn't be surprised if he's hiding something.
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