Ginny and the entrancing Veil

jksunflower2002 mkeller01 at alltel.net
Thu Jul 22 19:25:51 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 107294

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "rowansjet" <rowansjet at y...> 
wrote:
> In the scene where we are introduced to the Veil in the Department 
> of Mysteries(pg. 682, OotP UK edition), there are several points 
> where the author notes that some people are 'mesmerised' by the 
> veil, and can hear whispering voices. Hermione and Ron are 
> unaffected and seem particularly worried about it, while Harry and 
> Luna can both hear voices and are atracted too it.
> 
> However, I was most intrigued by this quote (pg 683, OotP uk 
> edition):
> 
> "...Ginny and Neville were staring, apparently entranced, at the 
> veil too."
> 
> What interests me about this quote is that Ginny is affected. 
First, 
> the room the Veil is located in is most probably the Death Chamber 
> that Dumbledore mentions later on, based on where the Death Eaters 
> are being held.
> 
> Now we know that Harry, Luna and Neville have seen someone die, by 
> the fact that they can see the Thestrals, but Ginny has not, 
because 
> she cannot see the thestrals. So we have to rule out the fact that 
> the Veil works in a similair way to Thestrals. Of course, based on 
> JKR's response to why Harry couldn't see the Thestrals at the end 
of 
> GoF, Ginny may not REMEMBER seeing someone die, due to an 
obliviate 
> spell, so it isn't sunken in, but she could have experienced/seen 
> death at some point. However this idea is too similair to the 
ideas 
> that Neville's forgetfulness is related to an Obliviate spell when 
> he could just have poor memory for some things.
> 
> A member of a Harry Potter Forum I visited, though I cannot 
remember 
> where or who, postulated that it was because of her near death 
> experience at the hands of Tom Riddle. I am unconvinced as it is a 
> very different cause than the others have for the attraction to 
the 
> veil but it is a possibility.
> 
> Neither of these two ideas particularly appeal to me so hopefully, 
> JKR will come up with a better explanation at some point, either 
in 
> interviews or in the books, preferably the books, because that 
means 
> it has some importance. Of course that doen't stop us from coming 
up 
> with more ideas about the books
> 
> Rowan Sjet(posting for the first time on HP4GU)


Sorry to be morbid, but perhaps the veil  effects people who  have 
been *enticed* by the idea of dying.  Wanting to end their 
suffering.  Harry--well, his suffering is quite obvious. Neville--
insane parents, growing up with Gram and perhaps low self esteem.  
Luna--the death of her Mum.  Ginny--during the whole Riddle 
experience.    

Just tossin' it out there.

Toad






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