Ginny and the entrancing Veil

dcgmck dolis5657 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 23 05:35:10 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 107371

> dcgmck wrote:
> > 
> > Hypothesis:  Ginny's possession by the young Tom Riddle might 
well have tainted her psyche if not her conscious memory with 
Riddle's witnessing of Moaning Myrtle's death.  Do you think he 
actually witnessed MM's death or just instigated it by setting the 
basilisk loose?  
> 
> Now Cory:
> 
> I don't know whether young TR saw MM's death or not, but for 
> purposes of your argument, I would argue that it does not matter.
> 
> The person who possessed Ginny (if "person" is the right word), was 
> not just the 16-year-old Riddle.  It was the memory of Riddle's 16-
> year-old self, but it was also a person that knew Riddle / 
> Voldemort's future, including the killing of Harry's parents and 
> his demise by Harry.  Thus, if we are theorizing that Ginny was 
> mesmerized by the veil because of her possession by Riddle, it 
> should not matter whether Riddle saw MM's death.  She could have 
> just as easily have been tainted by the memory of the countless 
> other deaths that Riddle / Voldemort caused throughout his life.


dcgmck again:

Hm... I see what you're saying.  In fact, if Ginny's possession had 
had the effect I initially suggested, she shouldn't have had any 
trouble seeing the threstrals.  

Still, I don't think the memory of Riddle knew any more of what his 
future self had done than what Ginny told him in the diary before 
Harry started communicating with him.  Of course, then Riddle 
possessed Ginny again...  OK.  But Harry knew even less than Ginny 
did in his second year at Hogwarts.  OK, I'm confused again.  How 
would the memory have learned enough to contaminate Ginny, unless it 
was outside of the visible narrative line while at the Malfoy estate?






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