Voldemort's Fear of Dumbledore

[cubfanbudwoman]

No: HPFGUIDX 107419

Angie wrote:
> > > I the general consensus is that LV feared DD, but I don't see 
> > > this in his encounter with DD in OOP.  I can't imagine LV 
> > > admitting any type of fear or weakness to anyone, so how do we 
> > > know LV feared DD? I know Hermione stated this and I presume it 
> > > is common knowledge, but again, the question is why. 


SSSusan:
> > Not getting into the "why" at this point, I'll simply reply to 
> > the question of how we know that LV feared DD.  For me, it's more 
> > the fact that *JKR* said it in her chapter title.  That carries a 
> > lot more weight than Hermione's statement for me.

 
Meri, nitpicking: 
> Yes, but if we accept that then we have to believe that Snape's 
> absolute worst memory despite his possible abusive childhood and 
> years of serivce as a DE was when he was fifteen and humiliated by 
> a pair of idiots in school. Now I was made fun of in high school, 
> but not one of those instances rates as my worst memory. 


SSSusan:
Not nitpicking at all, Meri; it's a valid comparison.  Point well 
taken.  It doesn't make it certain that "The Only One He Ever Feared" 
*isn't* true, but it does raise a little question about it.


Meri:
> I think that the reason LV fears DD is because he knows deep in his 
> heart (if he has one) that DD is always gonna be stronger than him 
> because LV is afraid of dying and DD simply is not. 


SSSusan:
I think this makes sense.  I think there may be additional reasons as 
well, but this seems to me to be quite likely to be part of it.  
Other possibilities, I think, are:  DD's history [defeating 
Grindelwald and all], clearly showing his commitment to stopping evil 
wizards; and the fact that DD seems, simply, to truly be a powerful 
wizard, able to do wandless and/or incantationless magic on 
occasion.  I know *I* was impressed with his skills in the MoM 
scene.  

(I know some would argue that if he was all that powerful, he'd have 
killed Voldy there, but I think DD believes, because of the prophecy 
& his views on death "not being enough", that there's something else 
in store there for Voldy, and that it'll come about because of Harry, 
not DD.)

Siriusly Snapey Susan