Will Harry muse or be too busy fighting? - Nature of Death

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 107531

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:

> " <boyd.t.smythe at f...> wrote:
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> While I've given up hope of Harry surviving the series, I just hope 
> > that his friends don't have to pay the price, as well.
> > 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Don't give up hope, Boyd. :o) JKR might surprise you. For now I am 
> quite confident that except symbolic death, no other kind of death 
> will catch Harry at the end of the series. Of course JKR may 
> surprise  me as well.
> 
> But as some poster stated, Harry will definitely go into final 
> battle expecting that this will be his final hour.
> 
> Alla


Asian_lovr2:

This seems like a point at which I can inject one of my own pet
theories without straying to far from the central point. 

Death is a strange thing, or as I like to say it, there is death then
there is death, the two not necessarily being the same. 

What I'm about to say is not necessarily something I believe WILL
happen, it just a theory about one of the things that might happen.

There is a general theory, held my many people, that in order for
Voldemort to be killed Harry must also die. There are a range of
theories on why this is, although I won't go into deep detail here.
Suffice to say, that Harry and Voldemort are tied together. Because of
this connection Voldemort's degree of immortality remains as long as
Harry remains. Conclusion; in the moment after Harry's death Voldemort
is most vulnerable, and at that time can be truly killed.

Now let me pause and explain about 'there is death and then there is
death, the two not necessarily the same'. People die all the time, and
in a sense, come back from the dead. I don't mean in books, I mean in
everyday muggle life, in the very town you live in. 

True JKR has said that dead is dead, when you are gone, you are gone,
but that was in the context of Harry's parent returning. And, in real
life when you are truly dead, you are dead and can't come back. But
there are many people who are dead by /some/ definition who do come back.

This could be the key to Dumbledore's plan or could just be the course
that fate travels, but the idea is that Harry is dead by some
definition, but not truly and irreversably dead. Snape mentioned a
couple potions that mimic death. There is the Philosopher's stone and
Elixer of Life. There are Phoenix tears and Unicorn blood. The point
here is that there are precedents in the book for guarding against
short term death. By short term death, I mean you can't be killed in
the next hour or the next day, rather than a long term protection or
some form of immortality. 

If they plan in advance to guard Harry in the short term against
complete death, then Harry may be able to experience an apparent death
during which Voldemort becomes vulnerable at which time Neville or
Dobby or Ron bump him off completely. After which Harry is revived by
the approriate means for which ever method created his appearent death. 

I've sort of skimped on the details, but I think you get the general
idea. Even though JKR says completely dead is completely dead; people
who die in real life aren't always irreversably dead. 

Like I said, there is death and then again there is death, the two not
necessarily being the same.

Steve/asian_lovr2